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Old 04-15-2013, 04:46 PM   #1
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SUPER CHARGER VS SUPERCHARGER

ok so i want to know what would be better for my car the blitz or the rotrex i dont know which one i want more i wish i could do both haha i need someone's thought on this and what else i would need with it im new to modding im used to doing motorcycles and cosmetics
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:25 PM   #2
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I don't think you will hear anything negative from any of us Blitz owners, but check out this thread for some mixed emotions on the Rotrex:

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26017
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:55 PM   #3
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Blitz is kinda popular because it is cheap.. once in a while you can buy one used for around 1500-2000 usd which already includes the fuel controller (management). So you can install one by yourself and you do no risk killing your engine while tuning your AEM FIC (in case of something like zage) )) Rotrex is more expensive hence less popular.

There is also Greddy out there
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:13 PM   #4
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Blitz is kinda popular because it is cheap.. once in a while you can buy one used for around 1500-2000 usd which already includes the fuel controller (management). So you can install one by yourself and you do no risk killing your engine while tuning your AEM FIC (in case of something like zage) )) Rotrex is more expensive hence less popular.

There is also Greddy out there
Do they all cap off the boost at 6 psi? or are some higher than others?
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:50 PM   #5
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I thought the rotex went higher than 6psi... Or it just has less parasitics thus the higher power level.

Rotex was claiming 145whp. I have heard the blitz is in the 115-120whp range.

I don't know what type of management the rotex comes with though.

***some people's blitz(ed) cars have more power but they have other add ons like intake, exhaust, ...etc and so on. Some have even put a fixed pulley to increase PSI but had to go with AEM FIC to control it***
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:53 AM   #6
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see i want the fixed pulley with the short shift i already have a weapon r intake and high flow cats so im good on the exhaust and what nots i think im gonna stick with the blitz after most of these posts thank you guys for the help now i need to figure out how to do it haha
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:04 PM   #7
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I'd say hang out for a while. There were 3 for sale in the last month or so. 2 were $1800 and one was at $1600.

Be ready with cash in hand (or via paypal) and wait it out. I was going to go that route and bought a house instead.

Short shifters are relatively cheap. There are two available and you can actually put both on your vehicle (one at the shifter and one at the trans). I actually have both on my car and it is very nice.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I think if you have done the other performance stuff to your car, you will need different management for the blitz... not 100% on that one. CTscott would be a good one to ask about that one.
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:08 PM   #8
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I'd say hang out for a while. There were 3 for sale in the last month or so. 2 were $1800 and one was at $1600.

Be ready with cash in hand (or via paypal) and wait it out. I was going to go that route and bought a house instead.

Short shifters are relatively cheap. There are two available and you can actually put both on your vehicle (one at the shifter and one at the trans). I actually have both on my car and it is very nice.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I think if you have done the other performance stuff to your car, you will need different management for the blitz... not 100% on that one. CTscott would be a good one to ask about that one.
ok good stuff ill be in touch with him to find out what i can get soon im super excited i have about $5k sitting around with nothing to do right now with it
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:31 PM   #9
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I love my Blitz. The Rotrex looked like it would be a lot more difficult to install and I don't know that anyone has even tried one yet.
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:21 PM   #10
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I'd say hang out for a while. There were 3 for sale in the last month or so. 2 were $1800 and one was at $1600.

Be ready with cash in hand (or via paypal) and wait it out. I was going to go that route and bought a house instead.

Short shifters are relatively cheap. There are two available and you can actually put both on your vehicle (one at the shifter and one at the trans). I actually have both on my car and it is very nice.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I think if you have done the other performance stuff to your car, you will need different management for the blitz... not 100% on that one. CTscott would be a good one to ask about that one.
That is correct. The Blitz fuel controller that comes with the kit is only designed to work with a bone stock Yaris. If you have an intake or other performance mods you will run lean. Some have had success with only upgrading the injectors to the ones for the 1ZZ engine, but some form of piggyback management makes it easier to keep your AFRs in the safe range.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:12 AM   #11
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ok so i really am going to sound like a noob but what are the guages i will need to have the blitz on the yaris i have an 08 HB no tach and mines also a standard shift will that make a difference cuase i have seen a couple youtube vids of a yaris s/c but they are automatics
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ok so i really am going to sound like a noob but what are the guages i will need to have the blitz on the yaris i have an 08 HB no tach and mines also a standard shift will that make a difference cuase i have seen a couple youtube vids of a yaris s/c but they are automatics
The most important one is an AFR (air to fuel ratio) meter. That allows you to determine if you are running lean, which can lead to catastrophic failure of the engine.

I would think a tach would be pretty handy with your car being a MT.

A boost gauge is important for a turbo application, but is really an optional one with a blitz SC, as the blitz is very predictable with its boost output.
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Old 04-17-2013, 12:27 PM   #13
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ok so no matter what i need the air to fuel ratio meter and prob a tach i shift by sound now
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:27 AM   #14
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That is correct. The Blitz fuel controller that comes with the kit is only designed to work with a bone stock Yaris. If you have an intake or other performance mods you will run lean. Some have had success with only upgrading the injectors to the ones for the 1ZZ engine, but some form of piggyback management makes it easier to keep your AFRs in the safe range.
Crap, and here I was about to install a CAI this weekend. Looks like I'm off to find some 1ZZ injectors...
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:03 PM   #15
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^ Yes the 1ZZ injectors are highly advised if you run a CAI with the Blitz Supercharger. You can even push out a few more HP if you run an AEM F/IC instead of using the supplied Blitz controller.
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