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Old 01-22-2010, 12:40 PM   #1
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I think that Toyota should recall Yaris's with ABS to replace the rear wheel speed sensors and the wiring harness. Our Canadian neighbors to the north and those of us in New England and parts north are starting to have problems with corrosion of these parts. The ABS light and brake light come on because of corrosion of the parts and it costs between $400 to $600 per side to fix. If you didn't buy the extended warranty you are out almost 1200 bucks. I called Toyota's customer service line and asked if a fix was in the works and basicly got hung up on. Toyota has become the new GM. Buy the car and we don't want to see you again.
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Old 01-22-2010, 12:47 PM   #2
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I think that Toyota should recall Yaris's with ABS to replace the rear wheel speed sensors and the wiring harness. Our Canadian neighbors to the north and those of us in New England and parts north are starting to have problems with corrosion of these parts. The ABS light and brake light come on because of corrosion of the parts and it costs between $400 to $600 per side to fix. If you didn't buy the extended warranty you are out almost 1200 bucks. I called Toyota's customer service line and asked if a fix was in the works and basicly got hung up on. Toyota has become the new GM. Buy the car and we don't want to see you again.
No thanks, don't raise my bottom line because you decide to live somewhere that destroys cars.

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its just funny that 99% of the cars affected were in the States, all over the world not even a peep.....
What is 99% of 2?
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Old 01-24-2010, 01:18 PM   #3
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No thanks, don't raise my bottom line because you decide to live somewhere that destroys cars.



What is 99% of 2?
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Old 01-30-2010, 12:12 AM   #4
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even better, just makes the point that 2 owners were too lazy or dense to move the mat away from the pedals.
Lots and lots and lots of stupid comments from people that know NOTHING about what is happening....moving the matt will not stop the engine from revving in many cases, and there were 200+ issues not just 2....come on guys do a little reading!!

The issue is the accelerator mechanism (sometimes even if the peddle is not stuck depressed) and/or the programming of the ECU.

And the issue is beyond the accellerator and ECU to because cars with a start/stop button show the button as ineffective during such anamolies.
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Old 01-30-2010, 12:17 AM   #5
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and there were 200+ issues not just 2....come on guys do a little reading!
Please provide a link so I can read. Everything I've seen has said "less than a dozen"
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Old 01-30-2010, 12:31 AM   #6
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Please provide a link so I can read. Everything I've seen has said "less than a dozen"
The NTC has hundreds of reports, and of all those reports of such a problem, 40% come from Toyota alone.

It's ALL OVER the internet....but here is just one which speaks to the accellerator mechanism....which may be just part of the problem:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/...id=64104531001
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Old 01-30-2010, 12:33 AM   #7
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The NTC has hundreds of reports, and of all those reports of such a problem, 40% come from Toyota alone.

It's ALL OVER the internet....but here is just one which speaks to the accellerator mechanism....which may be just part of the problem:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/...id=64104531001
chastise me for not reading and then link me a vid... love it

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Old 01-30-2010, 10:01 AM   #8
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The NTC has hundreds of reports, and of all those reports of such a problem, 40% come from Toyota alone.

It's ALL OVER the internet....but here is just one which speaks to the accellerator mechanism....which may be just part of the problem:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/...id=64104531001
I just watched this video this morning. Very informative. I am the manufacturing manager for a company who designs and produces medical devices. One thing I can definitively say about ANY manufacturing process is that no matter what you may specify on your print or your process descriptions, there will ALWAYS be some deviation from that. If toyota specifies that the finish on that guide pin installed on the pedal mechanism must be to a certain specification, if that production run is a large batch at a time (which i am sure it must be) how often do you think CTS is changing their tooling? Or if they buy the machined pin and collar from another machine shop, how well rounded is THAT company's QA and QC system?.. With so many different manufacturing processes going into this system, from wiring to soldering to plastics molding and machining, it may take them a little while to find the root cause. Everyone is saying "its this and its that", but I can almost guarantee is it something small that is either a deviation of toyota's specified process of manufacture, or it is something associated with lack of QC either by factory workers or subcontractors for toyota. Hopefully nobody gets hurt in the mean time.

On another note, it could be the floor mats... ha!
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:56 AM   #9
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Start/Stop Button works flawless. Depending on the car you have to press it for 3 seconds or you have to hit it several times while the engine is running. Of course it does not cut off the engine with a single short hit, because you might hit the button accidentially while driving.
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Old 01-22-2010, 01:32 PM   #10
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I think that Toyota should recall Yaris's with ABS to replace the rear wheel speed sensors and the wiring harness. Our Canadian neighbors to the north and those of us in New England and parts north are starting to have problems with corrosion of these parts. The ABS light and brake light come on because of corrosion of the parts and it costs between $400 to $600 per side to fix. If you didn't buy the extended warranty you are out almost 1200 bucks. I called Toyota's customer service line and asked if a fix was in the works and basicly got hung up on. Toyota has become the new GM. Buy the car and we don't want to see you again.
Ok... you "called" and that is where you went wrong. A phone call never gets you anywhere in most circomstances with any corp, etc.

Whenever I have any sort of a problem with any company etc. I always send a registrered letter (siginature required) to outline the problerm, giving them my means of contact. It may be a hassle to get a particular address but, it's well worth it.

This never fails to get attention as they can no longer claim they are unaware of the situation and you have legal proof of the situation.
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Old 01-22-2010, 02:33 PM   #11
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Thanks RedRide, I think I will write a letter to Toyota and also the local dealer certified return receipt on both outlining what I wrote here and also include the VIN. This is a serious problem that many on this thread may not have experienced, yet, but it is a problem.

Flash news, the other half just called and it did it today but at least was controllable with the manual transmission.

Maybe it is just a few vehicles with the problem but it is a problem that needs to be addressed by Toyota.

And for Toyota reading this, the mat is way out of the way and is locked down by a factory set of hold downs so it can't move. Which also begs the question as to why Toyota would supply a mat in a vehicle that would cause a pedal jam?
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Old 01-22-2010, 05:33 PM   #12
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Thanks RedRide, I think I will write a letter to Toyota and also the local dealer certified return receipt on both outlining what I wrote here and also include the VIN. This is a serious problem that many on this thread may not have experienced, yet, but it is a problem.

Flash news, the other half just called and it did it today but at least was controllable with the manual transmission.

Maybe it is just a few vehicles with the problem but it is a problem that needs to be addressed by Toyota.

And for Toyota reading this, the mat is way out of the way and is locked down by a factory set of hold downs so it can't move. Which also begs the question as to why Toyota would supply a mat in a vehicle that would cause a pedal jam?
just pointing out that that 100% of your posts are about problems with the Yaris...so far
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Old 04-30-2010, 11:46 AM   #13
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I think that Toyota should recall Yaris's with ABS to replace the rear wheel speed sensors and the wiring harness. Our Canadian neighbors to the north and those of us in New England and parts north are starting to have problems with corrosion of these parts. The ABS light and brake light come on because of corrosion of the parts and it costs between $400 to $600 per side to fix. If you didn't buy the extended warranty you are out almost 1200 bucks. I called Toyota's customer service line and asked if a fix was in the works and basicly got hung up on. Toyota has become the new GM. Buy the car and we don't want to see you again.
It is interesting that this was noted and then further commented on that a TSB quietly came out in 08 and then not followed up by New England dealerships. I had brought my Yaris into the local deal several times since 08 for random things and it wasn't until a couple months ago when I brought the car in be looked at for how my mileage this winter literally dropped to roughly 16-18mpg consistently all winter long that they mentioned the TSB. I just fell out of my warranty mileage-wise and they wanted to charge me the 1200 bucks, but I produced my military orders for Oct 08-09 showing that I was overseas for the government and therefore could not have driven the car (verified by mileage on oil changes) and they put it under warranty.

The interesting part that I found on the whole deal was that why, if I had been to the dealership several times since the TSB, had they not said, "we have a TSB for the ABS and we need to schedule the replacement". When the flammable sound deadening material TSB came out which was pretty cheap in comparison they contacted me right away.

Also as a point of reference I was experiencing braking issues building to a regular basis during the winter months until they replaced the parts.
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:36 AM   #14
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Have you tried a "I'm a dissatisfied Toyota custmer" picket sign in front of a Toyota dealership...this will get thier attention and they can't hang up on you.
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