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Old 12-07-2008, 06:37 PM   #19
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:05 AM   #20
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Perfect power is known in the impreza community among n/a applications.

AT3GG, you seem to be one of the very few people working on a turbo project.
I wish you the best of luck.
It's too bad no one is going FI where i'm from, i'd love to see a yaris project up close.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:07 AM   #21
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easy flight to the mainland
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:56 AM   #22
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Perfect power is known in the Honda community among n/a applications.
I thought Honda was the one known to have the most power per liter displacement N/A in its S2000

Lol i bet its cheaper to fly up to us than down to them :( damn tourism
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I thought Honda was the one known to have the most power per liter displacement N/A in its S2000

Lol i bet its cheaper to fly up to us than down to them :( damn tourism
Well, i don't flock in honda circles anymore, but you probably are correct. Hondas are some of the cheapest cars to build and transform into a monster.

And sadly, my wife doesn't want to move up to the lower 48 yet. I've been working on it for the past 3 years now, but she loves her job, life, etc.
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:06 PM   #24
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The closest place to me that I have found wrote me back. Their Emanage certified btw.

The said that "an orignal tune, with no base map would run $550-750( with Emanage or Emanage Ultimate). Because there is no plug and play for your yaris, we will have to build a custom harness etc. This will run basic shop labor costs of $95/ hour"

Anyone who knows.....about how long should it take them to fab up a harness? A day? A week? They should know what their doing so it shouldnt be that difficult correct? I know labor cost is high but thats a LITTLE extreme isnt it?
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:37 PM   #25
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The closest place to me that I have found wrote me back. Their Emanage certified btw.

The said that "an orignal tune, with no base map would run $550-750( with Emanage or Emanage Ultimate). Because there is no plug and play for your yaris, we will have to build a custom harness etc. This will run basic shop labor costs of $95/ hour"

Anyone who knows.....about how long should it take them to fab up a harness? A day? A week? They should know what their doing so it shouldnt be that difficult correct? I know labor cost is high but thats a LITTLE extreme isnt it?
it's not really a harness...

oh, and i was able to wire mine up in about 4 hours. plan on them telling you 10

they'll just tap in and bypass a few of the wires coming into the unit.

for the $$ i'd do the FIC over the ultimate.
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:39 PM   #26
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no, that is a reasonable shop rate for custom fabricating a wiring harness.

You'd want to take you car there and have them estimate the number of hours needed. I can't guess at that. I know what my custom wiring cost -- wasn't cheap.

Since no one has tuned the Yaris as far as I know with an eManage, there is a risk of an extended stay while they work out problems -- and that may or may not be on the clock.

If someone else has done it, you can maybe get wiring schematics and a base map from them.

Tamago, four of us have failed with the FI-C. Doesn't mean it can't be done, but it hasn't been done successfully yet. AEM won't help, either.
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:50 PM   #27
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Tamago, four of us have failed with the FI-C. Doesn't mean it can't be done, but it hasn't been done successfully yet. AEM won't help, either.
if the FIC fails, the emanage will fail..

engine management is just grabbing signals (inputs) from your stock sensors then making changes and sending outputs to the ECU to trick it into giving more fuel or removing timing. at the same time it's grabbing outputs for spark and fuel and retarding (timing) and adding (fuel) as needed..

if the AEM unit failed it's because either the shop did not use the proper resistors in the wiring harness, or because the ECU is simply un-molestable (which i find hard to believe)

those of you with tuning issues should be looking to the 07+ tC tuners. they'll have the same electronic protocall as you (DBW, the "newer" MAF, etc) they've had issues using the FIC and many of those issues have been corrected using resistors

just going by what i know and have read on the scion forums.

Garm, what year is your tC and what are you using for management? Hydra?
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Old 12-15-2008, 03:32 PM   #28
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Old 12-15-2008, 03:48 PM   #29
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so the answer to the yaris people should be stand-alone
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Old 12-15-2008, 05:02 PM   #30
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These guys are tc "specialists" I would say actually. Check out their page its ptuning.com

I figured with all the issues with the FI-C I would try another route
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oops 2006, not 2606 (that would be an interesting car).

standalone solves all the problems, and raises some new ones. But in terms of tuning the engine, you have total control, which I want.
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:34 PM   #32
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the shop I've been talking to said they have a tuning ceiling of $750, so they guarantee it wouldn't be more than that, no matter the time it took them. They also said it would probably take one full day to do the custom harness.
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great, you've got your answers. What day is the appointment?
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Old 12-16-2008, 06:27 PM   #34
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haha the day my bank account supports it entirely. I found out quite recently that I am being deployed this coming summer, so unfortunately theres another road block. But it will allow me to save a lot more money, so hopefully I'll have most of my set up purchased waiting for me when i get back.
BTW cali how long did they mechanical aspect of your kit take to get put on...tuning aside ex manifold, piping oil lines etc.?
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Old 12-17-2008, 02:49 PM   #35
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i fear i may be in over my head......i may just have to wait for a complete GOOD kit..if that ever happens



if so sorry for the "lead on" but hey i learned a bit!
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Old 12-22-2008, 01:41 PM   #36
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pttuning is a good shop, they sure know their tC's

their TimeAttack tC driven by Spazgun is no joke.
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