Manual Transmission...Safety Issue!!! - Page 5 - Toyota Yaris Forums

foober · 10-14-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by twocvforme

That's correct...she is not driving it any longer.. we're just fortunate to have other stardard vehicles here to drive.. She pities the poor soul who has just one manual Yaris to drive...
Since it appears by the many posts here, it's not the normal.. Plus, we take driving very seriously; cannot afford one possible stall - due to low RPM's etc...
Toyota will have a Technical Bulletin (Recall) soon that many of us will gladly welcome; especially after they have a few liability suits.

EIther theres something wrong with your car or you and your wife just have trouble with driving a manual transmission. I'd really recommend you stick to automatic transmissions.

My manual yaris works perfect. I'm even thinking of buying another one just like it.

SmellyTofu · 10-15-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by twocvforme

That's correct...she is not driving it any longer.. we're just fortunate to have other stardard vehicles here to drive.. She pities the poor soul who has just one manual Yaris to drive...
Since it appears by the many posts here, it's not the normal.. Plus, we take driving very seriously; cannot afford one possible stall - due to low RPM's etc...
Toyota will have a Technical Bulletin (Recall) soon that many of us will gladly welcome; especially after they have a few liability suits.

What's your definition of low rpm?

FYI, it is barely possible for the engine to move by just lifting the clutch. You do have to rev it a bit ... then again, what's to stop you giving it a clutch dump and leave a long black line on the road??

Again, it is the driver and I have not heard of any issue even with the 2NZFE motor except that it lacks a bit of torque and a bit of brain adjustment is required (driver came out of a 2AZFE powered RAV4).

I think you are so quick to point the finger and spit out the word recall, and lawsuits in America. No one else here seem to have your problem. Why is it a lawsuit? Why is it a recall? Why is it never the organic bit that is the fault? Plenty obvious on this forum and from what I hear from the national service guys here.

If only some poor soul could give perhaps you and your wife a recall for a brain reprogram. If you hadn't noticed, press the accelerator FIRST, then lift up the clutch, then you will be able to move. Not the other way around.

I suggest you sell the car before you hurt yourself. Most likely don't deserve to drive a Toyota. Go bother some other company. Maybe some silly large FWD V8 (do they even make that in America??!!??) is what you need. Fuel is cheap again.

mrrock · 10-13-2006, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by twocvforme

Who has problems with clutch, gas and start off in first gear... ???

Yes, we can do it - but in comparison to the FIT and the Versa....The Yaris idle is so low and the clutch is so touchy.. and with a slight incline one stalls at times ..It's such a simple vehicle..........What a dissappointment.

Please test drive before buying..............

A real discussion topic in many other Yaris forums and many are trading already.........mostly for safety issues with stalling in intersections and or being rear ended..

First, anyone should test drive a car before they get...so your not disappointed
I admit it's a bit touchy taking off but my problem that it doesn't have a tach and the engine is so quite at idle that I have to rev it up before I can engage the clutch. as someone else pointed out the other issue is that the engine revs don't drop which throws your clutch engagment off.
if you think this clutch is touchy you should try driving a Ducati.

twocvforme · 10-13-2006, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mrrock

First, anyone should test drive a car before they get...so your not disappointed
I admit it's a bit touchy taking off but my problem that it doesn't have a tach and the engine is so quite at idle that I have to rev it up before I can engage the clutch. as someone else pointed out the other issue is that the engine revs don't drop which throws your clutch engagment off.
if you think this clutch is touchy you should try driving a Ducati.

We actually drove all 3 - Fit and Versa...our reaction which I think was so typical, must be us and we'll get used to it...Fit clutch and transmission did win, but loved the look of the Hatch...Funny you mention Ducati, we both drive our Aprilla bike..... but have no problems....

Toymaniac · 10-13-2006, 11:13 PM

yep my problem is solved ...revs on idle were to low....

when ac /defrost was on and radion it was just 350rpm

so now its about 600rpm on idle

twocvforme · 10-13-2006, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Toymaniac

yep my problem is solved ...revs on idle were to low....

when ac /defrost was on and radion it was just 350rpm

so now its about 600rpm on idle

Sounds great, but Toyota said they cannot touch the idle...how did you get yours up? Thanks in Advance, Peter

tekmoe · 10-14-2006, 08:26 AM

i don't understand what the problem is...

i test drove a 5spd hatch yesterday and i couldn't tell any difference between it and my 02 corolla 5spd. felt exactly the same.

ChinoCharles · 10-15-2006, 07:05 PM

SmellyTofu, easily the worst post ever. Go find the nearest ceiling fan and bring some rope, then call me for further instructions.

twocvforme · 10-15-2006, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

SmellyTofu, easily the worst post ever. Go find the nearest ceiling fan and bring some rope, then call me for further instructions.

I totally agree, I think he ate to much Tofu and is smelling.........

SmellyTofu · 10-15-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

SmellyTofu, easily the worst post ever. Go find the nearest ceiling fan and bring some rope, then call me for further instructions.

It's one thing to assume one thing but it's another to get it wrong. Why go to a dealer when you can go straight to the source inside to the man that created the car. Bah, what do I know... I'm just a keyboard warrior.

Smelly Tofu is not smelly btw. Know your foods.

twocvforme · 10-15-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SmellyTofu

It's one thing to assume one thing but it's another to get it wrong. Why go to a dealer when you can go straight to the source inside to the man that created the car. Bah, what do I know... I'm just a keyboard warrior.

Smelly Tofu is not smelly btw. Know your foods.

We all know Tofu doesn't smell...I wasn't referring to Tofu...

KSIbucky · 10-15-2006, 09:43 PM

if you know how to drive a manual you should be able to take care of it

eTiMaGo · 10-15-2006, 11:35 PM

Well, the more I drive the car, the more comfortable I get with the clutch, I can now go from a standstill without over-revving or choking the engine, it seems you just gotta hold the clutch half-way down for a second or two once you start moving, and it's all good :)

I did change shoes too, I used to wear big Oakley special-ops style shoes with wide and thick soles, comfortable shoes, but easy to get mixed up with the pedals

Now I got some classic Converse All-Stars for my birthday, and they make a very big difference!!

Just my $0.02

Yaris · 10-16-2006, 12:10 PM

Last winter my boots tripped on the pedals several times. Why do they put the pedals so close together??
Just my 2¢

kepper · 05-15-2007, 04:24 PM

Regarding touchy 1st-2nd shifting: My 2007 Yaris has the same problem, and it's not the driver, it's the car, unless DBW is a radically different shifting experience. Also, I've noticing during engine braking that the speed will drop a few hundred rpm when it gets to a certain speed--most noticeably in 2nd. So I'm wondering--Is the ECU "adjusting" throttle speed at all during up/down shifts?

Thanks.

uncleyaris · 05-15-2007, 04:54 PM

i've never had a problem. When I got the car I practiced not giving gas while releasing clutch to find the sweet spot. After that have never stalled, but I've only ever drove stick in my 20 plus years of driving.

stuffy · 05-15-2007, 05:10 PM

it is the driver, the yaris is a bigger adjustment for some because of the electronic throttle which does not have the same characteristics as a regular throttle.

just take some time and you will adjust to driving it.

grampi · 05-15-2007, 07:04 PM

I can only offer this; I have driven many, many different manual tranny equipped vehicles and every one of them felt vastly different in terms of clutch feel, even when driving two identical vehicles. Also, the person who said their's was idling at 400 RPM, that's too low and I'd take it in to have Toyota service fix it. It should be idling somewhere around 800-1000 RPM.

10-13-2006, 11:13 PM	#5
Toymaniac Adm.ClubYarisQuebec.com View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Aero group Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 71	yep my problem is solved ...revs on idle were to low.... when ac /defrost was on and radion it was just 350rpm so now its about 600rpm on idle __________________ Toymaniac 2007 Yaris sedan Barcelona Red TRD Swaybar TRD Springs Tanabe Strutbar

10-15-2006, 09:43 PM	#12
KSIbucky View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris manual dark silver Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fond du Lac, WI Posts: 694	if you know how to drive a manual you should be able to take care of it __________________ 7 Color Tach Fujita Intake Momo pedals Shift knob and boot. Full TRD SSK. Blitz exhaust Megan Lowering Springs (Next is DC Header)

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kepper I've made a post! Drives: 2007 Yaris 4-door Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1	Regarding touchy 1st-2nd shifting: My 2007 Yaris has the same problem, and it's not the driver, it's the car, unless DBW is a radically different shifting experience. Also, I've noticing during engine braking that the speed will drop a few hundred rpm when it gets to a certain speed--most noticeably in 2nd. So I'm wondering--Is the ECU "adjusting" throttle speed at all during up/down shifts? Thanks.

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uncleyaris View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Bayou Blue!!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,523	i've never had a problem. When I got the car I practiced not giving gas while releasing clutch to find the sweet spot. After that have never stalled, but I've only ever drove stick in my 20 plus years of driving.

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stuffy Drives: 06 yaris 5-dr le man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ontario, canada Posts: 699	it is the driver, the yaris is a bigger adjustment for some because of the electronic throttle which does not have the same characteristics as a regular throttle. just take some time and you will adjust to driving it.

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grampi Drives: Corolla Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 325	I can only offer this; I have driven many, many different manual tranny equipped vehicles and every one of them felt vastly different in terms of clutch feel, even when driving two identical vehicles. Also, the person who said their's was idling at 400 RPM, that's too low and I'd take it in to have Toyota service fix it. It should be idling somewhere around 800-1000 RPM.