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First Drive: 2012 Ford Focus
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02-03-2011, 07:37 PM | #2 |
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02-03-2011, 09:28 PM | #3 |
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yeah...i think it might be time for a new car. too bad it's got the blue oval on it...i'll have to seriously consider it.
after what they've done with the new f-trucks and mustangs....all new engines and completely redesigned transmissions in their 6 and 8cylinders....woa, i may have to actually consider them now. my wife wants a new truck, and it may be a ford. and if she gets one, i'm gonna want one. |
02-07-2011, 05:35 PM | #4 |
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I got to sit in a 2012 at the Portland Auto Show. It's a very very nice interior. I think the car will be a big hit. Nice vehicle.
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02-07-2011, 09:17 PM | #5 |
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I though I'd never own a Ford myself after helping a fellow lab-mate put out a car fire in his Taurus.
Bought a former rental 07 Expedition at the end of 07 for almost half the price new. 6 speed auto tranny is very slick. Got it up to 22mpg on the highway. I remain very impressed with Ford's comeback. Saw a SHO the other day and had to do a double-take. The SHO is a very stylish vehicle. I don't know if it's $40k nice, but it's a very nice car. |
02-07-2011, 11:09 PM | #6 |
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$23,000 for a Ford Focus with "titanium" handling? For $23,000 I'd rather
go plop that down on a RWD turbo Hyundai Genesis R spec, a car that would wreck that Focus in every way possible. Good job charging rediculous prices again Ford.
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02-08-2011, 11:47 AM | #7 | |
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It's a bit like saying why would you buy the $23,000 Focus, when for the same price you could get an F150 that can haul way more stuff.
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02-08-2011, 02:40 PM | #8 |
I like how this car was developed in europe not the USA and has been the staple for years. now they bring a shitty version of both the fiesta and focus with everyone thinking there awesome and trying to save the planet, big woop.Any car brought to the USA gets pu##ed down.
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02-08-2011, 05:39 PM | #9 | |
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The Fiesta and new Focus are virtually the same worldwide under Ford's new global product strategy. There are only minor differences and Americans are no longer going to get the watered down junk that was the first and second generation US spec Focus. As a result, the new US Fiesta and Focus are pricier than Americans are used to paying for sub-compact and compact economy cars. Now, those complaints are coming in. Seems Ford can't win either way. The difference has always been that Europeans always were willing to pay premium prices for small cars which is why they've gotten the goods. Americans associate size with premium price tags which is why we've always gotten stripped small cars. It's not necessarily the automakers fault, just a market and economic reality. Ford's now betting the American market is ready to pay for great small cars. We'll see. |
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02-08-2011, 07:35 PM | #10 |
Well the USA missed out on the allwheel drive focus with 300hp and i think they will skip the new RS model also.
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because they are trying to make a "sporty" car. A f150 isn't sporty, it's built for hauling. So a comparison to a genesis is a very fair comparison, since it also is a "sporty" car.
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02-08-2011, 08:00 PM | #12 |
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Those would probably be $30+K. They just wouldn't sell enough to justify. Although it would be good competition for the WRX/STI & Lancer EVO. Those established models have a hard enough time selling as it is.
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These cars don't get any better in the used market. Trust me... Try selling a 2 year old EVO IX for about $25k privately... The kind of people who know what these cars are, won't have $25k to buy a used car. With all the supposed fan base that these cars have on the internet, I suspect most of them are under aged fan-boys driving around in their parents' Volvo and dreaming of the EVO / STI. |
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02-12-2011, 11:14 PM | #14 |
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yeah, you def have to think about the market and the consumers. SHO's are amazing, but I'm also still not completely sold on Ford. My sister-in-law got a 2011 focus after crashing her aveo, and i like it; but i've seen too many junk fords, typically their larger vehicles like the explorer.
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02-24-2011, 06:49 PM | #15 |
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Pricing info released from Ford
http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/2012/pricing/
Base sedan starts at $16,995 Base hatch starts at $18,790 Top Titanium model tops almost $24,000 Ford is trying the new premium small car approach (this along with Fiesta), much like Europe has always gotten. Let's see if it works in the US. Traditionally, it has not. |
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02-25-2011, 03:32 PM | #17 |
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I think lumping a FWD four-door compact in the same class as a RWD two-door sports car isn't a fair comparison, but that's just my two cents. I also don't believe there will be many people cross shopping the two.
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02-25-2011, 05:39 PM | #18 |
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Has the car really changed that much from the 2011? I am just curious because the car rental that I have this week is an 11. I am honestly not any more impressed that driving my Yaris...actually like my sedan more. Maybe I am smoking crack, but my car seems to get up and go faster as well as feeling more nimble than the focus. Lastly I get much better mileage even if I drive mine hard. I really despise the total intergration of the radio into the dash. I know that it has it's purpose, but in all honesty a company should NOT hamstring their customers by forcing them to keep what they are offering from the factory. This is especially true for those buying the "top" titanium model. You would have to think that if someone is going to drop that kind of cash on the top model then it is at least a 60% chance that they would want to customize the head unit. Shrugs...just my opinion.
Case in point. I would LOVE to have this head unit. It runs Ubuntu 10.1 and oh yeah, by the way, it has a built in 3G modem so you can listen to Pandora, Slacker, etc natively. http://www.vic-ltd.com/hardware-prod...ubuntu-3g.html Plus there are those that like the Pioneer AVIC series, etc...
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