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Old 12-12-2006, 08:49 PM   #37
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So, who's going to be guinea pig?

Caution to those of us who are in the snow belt, too much swaybar in the back is a recipe for disaster.
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:05 PM   #38
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There seems to be some mixed angst over this rear sway bar thing. I had a Progress on my xB and it was perfect! It kept the tail from wagging and gave it a more neutral steering effect. Lift off the throttle and the tail would rotate out in a CONTROLLED fashion.

If you increase the front along with the rear you have essentially done nothing but reduce body lean and kept understeer the same.
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:11 PM   #39
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There seems to be some mixed angst over this rear sway bar thing. I had a Progress on my xB and it was perfect! It kept the tail from wagging and gave it a more neutral steering effect. Lift off the throttle and the tail would rotate out in a CONTROLLED fashion.

If you increase the front along with the rear you have essentially done nothing but reduce body lean and kept understeer the same.
the front bar should always be larger then the rear bar, now should it be 15/0 (f/r)? no.

more like 22/20 (f/r) or 18/16.
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:46 PM   #40
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Russ, if that were true these companies wouldn't be selling a singular rear sway they would only sell matched sets. The rear-only bar helps the car drive and handle more like a rear drive car.
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:51 PM   #41
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Russ, if that were true these companies wouldn't be selling a singular rear sway they would only sell matched sets. The rear-only bar helps the car drive and handle more like a rear drive car.
if you think companies only sell what's best for performance you're either not paying attention or don't want to believe it.

if a company did only sell "sets" they'd be limiting their customer base significantly as people are cheap and like to do things in stages or to their preference even if it is negatively affecting overall performance.

my statements come from class winning autoxers and track drivers not from what companies do or do not decide to push in their marketing campaigns.

most people havn't driven a rear drive car that "feels" like a rear drive car. most rear drive cars drive like a fwd car except when you stand on the gas with the wheel turned the rear wheels spin instead of the fronts.

i'd much rather have my car GRIP like a mofo then dorifto like NOB.
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:45 PM   #42
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companies like Hotchkis who DO sell sets, IE the scion xA/B have severely undersized the rear bar.. no one wants to have people look down on their company for making spin happy econoboxes.
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:49 PM   #43
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I also saw the bar. However, what I saw was a rear strut tower brace, not a sway bar. I was pretty beefy looking and was made of stainless steel tubing of about 2" diameter.
and useless..
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Old 12-14-2006, 02:49 PM   #44
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I would say under $150 but need to await their final decision!
i can vouch for Progress. love their rear bar on my xA.. but i will be adding a Whiteline rear bar in addition to the Progress, help stiffen things up even more
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Old 12-14-2006, 05:49 PM   #45
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i can vouch for Progress. love their rear bar on my xA.. but i will be adding a Whiteline rear bar in addition to the Progress, help stiffen things up even more
wait, so your going to have two rear sway bars?

anyone ever seen the hardcore rear suspensions on modern touring cars? some of them use beams, i remember an article in a race engineering mag. pretty cool stuff, very fascinating.
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Old 12-14-2006, 06:45 PM   #46
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yes, two rear swaybars :)
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Old 12-14-2006, 11:33 PM   #47
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never seen that, but ive never owned a FWD until now.
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Old 12-15-2006, 08:02 AM   #48
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never seen that, but ive never owned a FWD until now.
tamago's just crazy, don't listen to him. hahaha.
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Old 12-15-2006, 08:14 AM   #49
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says the man who de-tunes his car before i make my final runs

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Old 12-15-2006, 08:19 AM   #50
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says the man who de-tunes his car before i make my final runs

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hahaha, i was out of race gas what was i suppose to do?

i still beat ya though

i vote for a rematch in the yaris :)
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Old 12-25-2006, 05:02 PM   #51
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Somebody keep us posted on the release of these new bars!
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Old 12-25-2006, 05:53 PM   #52
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Will do I'm in weekly contact with them and will set up a group buy shortly
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:35 PM   #53
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About those rear sway bars? Anybody?
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:26 PM   #54
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Will this sway bar fit the sedan or is it only for the LB?
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