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Old 01-14-2007, 12:47 AM   #19
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Old 01-14-2007, 01:21 AM   #20
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dngz, thanks for joining! I added you to the original post too :)
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Old 01-14-2007, 02:34 AM   #21
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so this bolts right into place?
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Old 01-14-2007, 06:02 AM   #22
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yeah i have a question, you say it bolts to the stock spring cups? is that the top of the springs, inside the trunk/hatch or outside the car underneath??? I don't want anything taking up my trunk space.
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Old 01-14-2007, 08:38 AM   #23
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yeah i have a question, you say it bolts to the stock spring cups? is that the top of the springs, inside the trunk/hatch or outside the car underneath??? I don't want anything taking up my trunk space.
The bar bolts underneath the vehicle to the rear trailing arm to reduce twist in the arm. It won't take up any room inside the car.

This is honestly going to be one of the simplest installs on this car, it shouldn't take more than 20 min. and simple hand tools. You probably won't even have to remove the wheels. Here is a picture of the bar on the Scion Xb/Xa:



Keep in mind that the Scion had a sway bar built into the stock trailing arm also, which we don't even have. This is going to make a big improvement on our cars!

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Old 01-14-2007, 10:07 AM   #24
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woof is seriously, seriously interested. Right now, you're saying $140 delivered, right? Well, will it come with photographic instructions?
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sway bar install's are one of the easiest mod's to do really.

oh, ive got a friend with a yaris, he seems intrested. i sent him the link to the thread, but he isnt that great with the internet so i may be doing all that for him, so we will see. ill try and contact him again and see whats up.
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i dont think it is that simple... u gotta remove the stock sway bar first!
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Old 01-14-2007, 10:47 AM   #27
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i dont think it is that simple... u gotta remove the stock sway bar first!
There is no stock rear sway bar.

I sure hope that its a bit more involved than the sway bar for the Scion since that sure doesn't look like it is going to do anything. Its a bar that is attached to a solid rear beam axle and nothing else. Seems like it would be like trying to stiffen a pencil by gluing a tooth pick to it. You would think it would be mounted to the chassis at some point.
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Is the progress rear sway bar going to be similar to the one in this article? sway bar for prius.

After reading that article, I understand how the bar would reduce understeer, which is good (to a point). But how would it work in connection with (or instead of) an front upper strut bar?

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Old 01-14-2007, 12:00 PM   #29
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woof is seriously, seriously interested. Right now, you're saying $140 delivered, right? Well, will it come with photographic instructions?
Yes, the price includes shipping! We may even be able to reduce the price a little more if we can get more than 25 people signed up. It includes instructions with pictures, and I will be posting instructions on the forums once I install mine.

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sway bar install's are one of the easiest mod's to do really.

oh, ive got a friend with a yaris, he seems intrested. i sent him the link to the thread, but he isnt that great with the internet so i may be doing all that for him, so we will see. ill try and contact him again and see whats up.
Sounds good! Just let us know if he want's in.

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i dont think it is that simple... u gotta remove the stock sway bar first!
That's the point! There is no stock sway bar This really will be as simple as just a few bolts, but it really does make a big difference.

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There is no stock rear sway bar.

I sure hope that its a bit more involved than the sway bar for the Scion since that sure doesn't look like it is going to do anything. Its a bar that is attached to a solid rear beam axle and nothing else. Seems like it would be like trying to stiffen a pencil by gluing a tooth pick to it. You would think it would be mounted to the chassis at some point.
It actually is very similar to the Scion design. If you study some other cars with similar trailing arm rear suspensions you'll find that this is the most effective way of controlling roll in the rear. The trailing arm is designed with a certain amount of flex/twist from the factory and this arm will help reduce the flex and minimize the roll allowing the car to corner flatter with less deflection in the rear end. Even the stock VW/Scion sway bars are mounted the same way.

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Is the progress rear sway bar going to be similar to the one in this article? sway bar for prius.

After reading that article, I understand how the bar would reduce understeer, which is good (to a point). But how would it work in connection with (or instead of) an front upper strut bar?

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That's a very good article, thanks for sharing! Our bars will be very similar to that one (except they'll bend backwards towards the spring/shock like the picture above). I actually had one of the straight style ones on my VW before and it works well, but requires you to drill holes in the trailing arm which would complicate the install for most. I think the way Progress do it is better for most do it yourself installers. I can't believe they charge $285 for that bar!

The front strut bar, rear strut bar (upper), and other chassis reinforcement bars can help improve your handling also by reducing chassis twist. Most of the ones that go on the front, will theoretically increase chances of understeer and bars that go on the back should increase oversteer. In my oppinion, the rear sway bar is by far the most effective one from the above mentioned bars.

largeorangefont is now confirmed, let me know if anyone else wants in!
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Old 01-14-2007, 12:10 PM   #30
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i dont think it is that simple... u gotta remove the stock sway bar first!
Er, what "stock sway bar?"
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Old 01-14-2007, 12:17 PM   #31
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Er, what "stock sway bar?"
Haha, give him a break It's not his fault Toyota cheaped out THAT MUCH and didnt' even install a rear sway bar on these cars! I wouldn't believe they still made cars without rear sway bars if I didn't own one myself
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HAHAHA my bad!! i just assumed the yaris would have one!
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Old 01-14-2007, 08:30 PM   #33
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Old 01-15-2007, 01:23 AM   #35
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Added dansides and cdydjded to the list, Thanks!
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did you see trd now has a rear sway bar for us?
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