Power Enterprise Super Charger Kit Round 2 $3100 - Page 6 - Toyota Yaris Forums

Power Enterprise Evan · 02-11-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

If I get my project done and no one has done this AND if I could figure out a way for the supercharger to give up at a certain level of boost, I might try a twin charge.]

Wouldn't that require a clutch-driven supercharger? I'm not sure the P/E will handle 15-20 pounds of boost.

no not necessarly

at3GG · 02-11-2009, 05:57 PM

Evan i want to apologize for my reaction in the previous thread...if you even remember. Great turnaround, if i wasnt married with priorities..::sigh:: i would load my credit card up for this kit. Best of luck, sincerely. Someone jump on this come on now.

cali yaris · 02-11-2009, 06:11 PM

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no not necessarly

ok -- let's hear more. I have a built motor I'll be running at 14-15 psi on the street and more at the track. AEM EMS standalone management (which probably has the inputs and outputs to control a twin charge setup).

How would the P/E supercharger be controlled if it has a fixed pulley?

Power Enterprise Evan · 02-12-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by at3GG

Evan i want to apologize for my reaction in the previous thread...if you even remember. Great turnaround, if i wasnt married with priorities..::sigh:: i would load my credit card up for this kit. Best of luck, sincerely. Someone jump on this come on now.

dont worry about it, buy a SC kit and we'll call it even

Power Enterprise Evan · 02-12-2009, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

ok -- let's hear more. I have a built motor I'll be running at 14-15 psi on the street and more at the track. AEM EMS standalone management (which probably has the inputs and outputs to control a twin charge setup).

How would the P/E supercharger be controlled if it has a fixed pulley?

its boost response timing is more consistent than a turbo since its on a fixed belt, i'm not sure on the engineering aspect of the P-MAP but i do know the other kits come with a preprogrammed/re-programmable piggy back computer, designed specifically for the Dual and Quad charger formats

Yaribhini · 02-14-2009, 07:50 AM

I have a question in regards to pricing on this unit. The Yaris is an inexpensive econocar so, I sort of have an issue with the pricing on the blower unit. I mean, who do you expect to shell out this kind of money for an econobox? Don't get me wrong but I am just trying to guage how the pricing was figured out for this thing? For example, RMS makes a supercharger kit for a first generation M3 that costs $2,500. The kit is as comprehensive if not moreso than the kit here and the M3 is, of course, a sports car.

So, at the end of the day, do you expect there to be a lot of interest in a blower kit at this price for an econocar? Don't get me wrong...I am happy that there is an offering but in this economy, with this car...I mean that is a LOT of money for what it is.

at3GG · 02-14-2009, 09:54 AM

thats kind of WHY its a higher price. That M3 kit will have much higher sales numbers than this ever will, so they can "afford" to lower the price. PE will be lucky to sell 5 of these kits, no offense guys. People who buy a yaris are typically interested in modding them this way. They have to be able to make a profit, hence the higher cost.

BLAZINBLUEVITZ · 02-14-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by at3GG

PE will be lucky to sell 5 of these kits, no offense guys. .

i do believe if we weren't in a depression right now at least 2-3 would have been out the door already........

PETERPOOP · 02-14-2009, 02:05 PM

Supply and demand. Blitz and PE are the only ones making kits right now. That's why they are both so expensive (besides other reasons). Nothing we can do about it, so there is no need to complain. I'd dish out the $3,100 if that offer extended to me and I had that money.

Power Enterprise Evan · 02-16-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaribhini

I have a question in regards to pricing on this unit. The Yaris is an inexpensive econocar so, I sort of have an issue with the pricing on the blower unit. I mean, who do you expect to shell out this kind of money for an econobox? Don't get me wrong but I am just trying to guage how the pricing was figured out for this thing? For example, RMS makes a supercharger kit for a first generation M3 that costs $2,500. The kit is as comprehensive if not moreso than the kit here and the M3 is, of course, a sports car.

So, at the end of the day, do you expect there to be a lot of interest in a blower kit at this price for an econocar? Don't get me wrong...I am happy that there is an offering but in this economy, with this car...I mean that is a LOT of money for what it is.

Engineers don't work for free, shipping isn't free, materials aren't free, R&D isn't free, we have to make something....

why do people dump thousands of dollars into a turbo civic that gets beat by a 75 year old man in his 4.8liter Northstar V8?

I don't know....people want it, we make it, some people buy it....

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Originally Posted by at3GG

thats kind of WHY its a higher price. That M3 kit will have much higher sales numbers than this ever will, so they can "afford" to lower the price. PE will be lucky to sell 5 of these kits, no offense guys. People who buy a yaris are typically interested in modding them this way. They have to be able to make a profit, hence the higher cost.

Affordability is all relative....one word "foreclosure"
People will do what needs to be done if they want something bad enough.... no matter what the cost.....

Realistically, if you (Yaribhini) think that its not worth it's not worth it to mod your car based upon the price you bought the vehicle for, then you are looking in the wrong part of this forum....

either that we are all ghetto fabulous..//

since i bought a $4000 lexus, and put $6000 in mods to it so far....but hey it's

to me...

but yes at3GG is right.... on this particular forum i suspect we will sell only a handful.....

on that note, our "vendor" test phase is coming to its one month end (we only purchased a month's worth of vendor service) so hopefully we will get a sale before then.... otherwise i dont think my boss will let me renew it again....

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Originally Posted by BLAZINBLUEVITZ

i do believe if we weren't in a depression right now at least 2-3 would have been out the door already........

stimulus package coming to you soon!! and ur tax return if you've done that as well...

Quote:

Originally Posted by PETERPOOP

Supply and demand. Blitz and PE are the only ones making kits right now. That's why they are both so expensive (besides other reasons). Nothing we can do about it, so there is no need to complain. I'd dish out the $3,100 if that offer extended to me and I had that money.

we have the supply....so wheres the demand?

cali yaris · 02-16-2009, 02:56 PM

How much boost will this kit take?
How much boost over what it makes stock will void the warranty?

BLAZINBLUEVITZ · 02-16-2009, 02:58 PM

12 days left on vendor status....

whooppee777 · 02-16-2009, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yaribhini

I mean, who do you expect to shell out this kind of money for an econobox?

Uhm....Me.

Except i put money down on the blitz a few months ago with cali yaris. so i'm monetarily bound to the blitz.

Mavix · 02-16-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Power Enterprise Evan

we have the supply....so wheres the demand?

I think the problem is that anyone that's been particularly serious about modding their car pretty much bought the Blitz kit already since it's been more readily available up to this point (or been really brave and turbo'd). So I guess it's just going to take a new bunch of Yaris owners who actually are serious about modding their cars to step up and take the plunge.

Being that it's the dead of winter here, my priorities are in other places. Just bad timing for some folks I guess. Nothing that can really be done about it I suppose, just kinda how it worked out.

Power Enterprise Evan · 02-16-2009, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

How much boost will this kit take?
How much boost over what it makes stock will void the warranty?

6 lbs.

tampering with the pulley will void warranty,

cali yaris · 02-16-2009, 09:14 PM

Based on your answer that it will only take 6 psi, I couldn't use this kit to twin charge then.

Your answer about "tampering with the pulley" didn't answer my question. Boost can easily be increased without touching the s/c pulley.

frownonfun · 02-16-2009, 09:47 PM

i think the 6lbs is referring to boost from another source and not what the PE supercharger produces. correct me if i'm wrong.

jkuchta · 02-16-2009, 10:02 PM

T-sport, if the PE supercharger is more efficient then it can make more power because it heats the intake charge up less. Also, it may draw less power from the engine to spin the thing at a given rpm.

Evan, has Rotrex addressed the issues with the front bearing failing on the snout of the supercharger?

02-11-2009, 05:57 PM	#92
at3GG Drives: 07 metmet LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: VA Beach Posts: 648	Evan i want to apologize for my reaction in the previous thread...if you even remember. Great turnaround, if i wasnt married with priorities..::sigh:: i would load my credit card up for this kit. Best of luck, sincerely. Someone jump on this come on now. __________________ F5 CAI, MR axleback, MR Header, NST SSK. Full Exhaust wrap, AT3 Custom SSK Konig Heliums 15x6.5 Black Tanabe Df210's

02-14-2009, 09:54 AM	#97
at3GG Drives: 07 metmet LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: VA Beach Posts: 648	thats kind of WHY its a higher price. That M3 kit will have much higher sales numbers than this ever will, so they can "afford" to lower the price. PE will be lucky to sell 5 of these kits, no offense guys. People who buy a yaris are typically interested in modding them this way. They have to be able to make a profit, hence the higher cost. __________________ F5 CAI, MR axleback, MR Header, NST SSK. Full Exhaust wrap, AT3 Custom SSK Konig Heliums 15x6.5 Black Tanabe Df210's

02-16-2009, 02:56 PM	#101
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	How much boost will this kit take? How much boost over what it makes stock will void the warranty? __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

02-16-2009, 09:14 PM	#106
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	Based on your answer that it will only take 6 psi, I couldn't use this kit to twin charge then. Your answer about "tampering with the pulley" didn't answer my question. Boost can easily be increased without touching the s/c pulley. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

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02-14-2009, 07:50 AM	#96
Yaribhini Banned Drives: Yaris Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 20	I have a question in regards to pricing on this unit. The Yaris is an inexpensive econocar so, I sort of have an issue with the pricing on the blower unit. I mean, who do you expect to shell out this kind of money for an econobox? Don't get me wrong but I am just trying to guage how the pricing was figured out for this thing? For example, RMS makes a supercharger kit for a first generation M3 that costs $2,500. The kit is as comprehensive if not moreso than the kit here and the M3 is, of course, a sports car. So, at the end of the day, do you expect there to be a lot of interest in a blower kit at this price for an econocar? Don't get me wrong...I am happy that there is an offering but in this economy, with this car...I mean that is a LOT of money for what it is.

02-14-2009, 02:05 PM	#99
PETERPOOP View User's Garage Drives: 08 white liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oahu Posts: 3,674	Supply and demand. Blitz and PE are the only ones making kits right now. That's why they are both so expensive (besides other reasons). Nothing we can do about it, so there is no need to complain. I'd dish out the $3,100 if that offer extended to me and I had that money.

02-16-2009, 02:58 PM	#102
BLAZINBLUEVITZ View User's Garage Drives: 2007 YARIS 3DOOR Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 1,275	12 days left on vendor status....

02-16-2009, 09:47 PM	#107
frownonfun View User's Garage Drives: 09 Yaris HB, 08 SR5 Tundra Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: RGV, Texas Posts: 1,086	i think the 6lbs is referring to boost from another source and not what the PE supercharger produces. correct me if i'm wrong.

02-16-2009, 10:02 PM	#108
jkuchta View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris hatch (red) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: L.A. Posts: 557	T-sport, if the PE supercharger is more efficient then it can make more power because it heats the intake charge up less. Also, it may draw less power from the engine to spin the thing at a given rpm. Evan, has Rotrex addressed the issues with the front bearing failing on the snout of the supercharger?