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ZING · 01-26-2009, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CtrlAltDefeat

Still unsure about which springs to order...

Also, is an alignment really needed when you swap springs?

Here check out the bottom of this thread, I posted up my car before/after NF210's.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13054

As for an alignment I have no idea. I was told by members here to do it, and from my friends dad who was assisting with installation. I am going to go right after my finals.

*tk-421* · 01-26-2009, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CtrlAltDefeat

well the SSK and the Underdrive pulley are ordered... Still unsure about which springs to order...

Also, is an alignment really needed when you swap springs? The DIY seemed pretty straight forward; I didn't see any thing you could adjust...

I have NF210 springs and they are the perfect balance between stance and daily driving comfort IMO. No rubbing at all with my wheel/tire combo (see my garage for details).

As far as alignment goes, you should really do it until the new springs have settled. Drive it around for a couple of weeks and then get it aligned.

CtrlAltDefeat · 01-26-2009, 06:28 AM

Makes sense... I appreciate everyone's help... It kinda got off topic after the parts were decided, so I'm really thankful for everyone's patience with the noob

cali yaris · 01-26-2009, 02:26 PM

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NST underdrive pulley $118

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$112 shipped from me - who did you order from?

CtrlAltDefeat · 01-26-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

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$112 shipped from me - who did you order from?

whoops... damn I didn't see that I ordered directly from NST for $118 and $10 for shipping

cali yaris · 01-26-2009, 03:53 PM

CtrlAltDefeat · 01-26-2009, 06:56 PM

Well I bought all my parts the final list is

Tanabe DF210 lowering springs $158 shipped
from Micro Image

NST Short shift kit $90 shipped
from wesellcarparts.com

NST 10% Underdrive Crank Pulley $118 + $10 shipping
from nonstoptuning.com

Total: $376

Sadly, I didn't realize that I could have gotten the NST Pulley from Micro Image for $112 shipped

I don't know how I missed that... ahh well, Thank you everyone for your help... when I get the parts in take pics and post the new thread here

PetersRedYaris · 01-26-2009, 07:41 PM

Sweet, your Yaris is about to drive a thousand times better...

And yes, get an alignment post spring install.

botchilah · 01-28-2009, 01:12 AM

From my experience, any car with a macpherson front suspension will necessitate an alignment every time you dismantle / disassemble the shocks since it is an integral, moving part (not just up and down but rotates on its body clockwise / counter-clockwise when you steer). And if the car's ride height becomes lower, your camber will be off for sure. By how much varies on a lot of things, but for the most part, it will be excessively off for sure. Toe also tends to change so you gotta look into that. Camber bolts would be great to remedy this. A pillow-ball top-mount would be beter but might be too harsh for most DD cars.

Having said that, since I don't have my Yaris yet, I'm not sure if the Yaris has a macpherson front suspension but if it does, you definitely will need an alignment job to maximize your suspension upgrades.

As for the rear, I haven't really looked at the Yaris' rear suspension but doesn't it look like ti has a simple twist-beam rear-end? Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm basing my experience on mostly Evos and Subarus I've dealt with in the past plus my old Honda Fit / Jazz DD.

dexter_5000 · 01-28-2009, 03:46 AM

machperson front suspenion and a torsion beam rear.

botchilah · 01-28-2009, 04:40 AM

Thanks Dexter5000!

I realize an alignment job there is quite expensive which is probably why everyone is hesitant to do it. Back here a decent alignment from a computerized aligner will set you back 10-20 U$ in your money. I tend to have my cars aligned every 3-4 months partly because the roads here are pretty bad, partly because I like experimenting with alignment specs and lastly because it's cheap!

I believe it's closer to 100U$ for a proper alignment job there?

CtrlAltDefeat · 01-28-2009, 07:10 AM

well costhelper.com says $50-$100 for an alignment which is an unexpected expense... Well I've heard it will take a couple of weeks for the springs to settle, so I'll just have to save up... If I had realized that I might have dropped off one of the other parts to make up for it...(tho I don't think I'd be as happy about my upgrades)...

CtrlAltDefeat · 03-30-2009, 04:09 AM

Oh hey I forgot to post the link here with my mods on it... Here it is...

crolandiz · 01-02-2011, 10:38 PM

Hi, my engine is a 1.3L 2NZ-FE, do you think I can install the NST 10% Underdrive Pulley Set wich is for the 1.5L?

Thank you.

yaris rs · 01-05-2011, 06:56 AM

your list is good, i would suggest though...

shocks (tokico blues)
lowering springs
shortshifter kit
AND if money is left over, a rear sway bar.
(rear since there isnt anything there besides control to regulate corning load)

"Anti-sway bars (also known as anti-roll bars) are used along with shock absorbers or struts to give a moving automobile additional stability. An anti-sway bar is a metal rod that spans the entire axle and effectively joins each side of the suspension together.

When the suspension at one wheel moves up and down, the anti-sway bar transfers movement to the other wheel. This creates a more level ride and reduces vehicle sway. In particular, it combats the roll of a car on its suspension as it corners. For this reason, almost all cars today are fitted with anti-sway bars as standard equipment, although if they're not, kits make it easy to install the bars at any time"

Bluevitz-rs · 01-05-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by crolandiz

Hi, my engine is a 1.3L 2NZ-FE, do you think I can install the NST 10% Underdrive Pulley Set wich is for the 1.5L?

Thank you.

the 1nz and 2nz are the same engines, just different displacement.

01-26-2009, 06:28 AM	#39
CtrlAltDefeat I ♥ Yaris View User's Garage Drives: Black 08 LB MT & red 97 Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 1,313	Makes sense... I appreciate everyone's help... It kinda got off topic after the parts were decided, so I'm really thankful for everyone's patience with the noob __________________ The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell

01-26-2009, 03:53 PM	#42
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	__________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

01-26-2009, 06:56 PM	#43
CtrlAltDefeat I ♥ Yaris View User's Garage Drives: Black 08 LB MT & red 97 Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 1,313	Well I bought all my parts the final list is Tanabe DF210 lowering springs $158 shipped from Micro Image NST Short shift kit $90 shipped from wesellcarparts.com NST 10% Underdrive Crank Pulley $118 + $10 shipping from nonstoptuning.com Total: $376 Sadly, I didn't realize that I could have gotten the NST Pulley from Micro Image for $112 shipped I don't know how I missed that... ahh well, Thank you everyone for your help... when I get the parts in take pics and post the new thread here __________________ The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell

01-28-2009, 03:46 AM	#46
dexter_5000 View User's Garage Drives: 2006 Scion xA Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 21	machperson front suspenion and a torsion beam rear. __________________ www.kamispeed.com www.ballisticmotorsports.org

01-28-2009, 07:10 AM	#48
CtrlAltDefeat I ♥ Yaris View User's Garage Drives: Black 08 LB MT & red 97 Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 1,313	well costhelper.com says $50-$100 for an alignment which is an unexpected expense... Well I've heard it will take a couple of weeks for the springs to settle, so I'll just have to save up... If I had realized that I might have dropped off one of the other parts to make up for it...(tho I don't think I'd be as happy about my upgrades)... __________________ The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell Last edited by CtrlAltDefeat; 01-28-2009 at 08:41 AM. Reason: whoops left out what i was talking about...

01-26-2009, 07:41 PM	#44
PetersRedYaris View User's Garage Drives: 2005 Scion xB Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Black Hills of South Dakota Posts: 1,059	Sweet, your Yaris is about to drive a thousand times better... And yes, get an alignment post spring install.

01-28-2009, 01:12 AM	#45
botchilah Drives: white and red shiny things Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 140	From my experience, any car with a macpherson front suspension will necessitate an alignment every time you dismantle / disassemble the shocks since it is an integral, moving part (not just up and down but rotates on its body clockwise / counter-clockwise when you steer). And if the car's ride height becomes lower, your camber will be off for sure. By how much varies on a lot of things, but for the most part, it will be excessively off for sure. Toe also tends to change so you gotta look into that. Camber bolts would be great to remedy this. A pillow-ball top-mount would be beter but might be too harsh for most DD cars. Having said that, since I don't have my Yaris yet, I'm not sure if the Yaris has a macpherson front suspension but if it does, you definitely will need an alignment job to maximize your suspension upgrades. As for the rear, I haven't really looked at the Yaris' rear suspension but doesn't it look like ti has a simple twist-beam rear-end? Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm basing my experience on mostly Evos and Subarus I've dealt with in the past plus my old Honda Fit / Jazz DD.

01-28-2009, 04:40 AM	#47
botchilah Drives: white and red shiny things Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 140	Thanks Dexter5000! I realize an alignment job there is quite expensive which is probably why everyone is hesitant to do it. Back here a decent alignment from a computerized aligner will set you back 10-20 U$ in your money. I tend to have my cars aligned every 3-4 months partly because the roads here are pretty bad, partly because I like experimenting with alignment specs and lastly because it's cheap! I believe it's closer to 100U$ for a proper alignment job there?

03-30-2009, 04:09 AM	#49
CtrlAltDefeat I ♥ Yaris View User's Garage Drives: Black 08 LB MT & red 97 Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 1,313	Oh hey I forgot to post the link here with my mods on it... Here it is... __________________ The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell

01-02-2011, 10:38 PM	#50
crolandiz Drives: Yaris Sedan '08 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Trujillo, Peru Posts: 15	Hi, my engine is a 1.3L 2NZ-FE, do you think I can install the NST 10% Underdrive Pulley Set wich is for the 1.5L? Thank you.

01-05-2011, 06:56 AM	#51
yaris rs Drives: 2009 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NA Posts: 47	your list is good, i would suggest though... shocks (tokico blues) lowering springs shortshifter kit AND if money is left over, a rear sway bar. (rear since there isnt anything there besides control to regulate corning load) "Anti-sway bars (also known as anti-roll bars) are used along with shock absorbers or struts to give a moving automobile additional stability. An anti-sway bar is a metal rod that spans the entire axle and effectively joins each side of the suspension together. When the suspension at one wheel moves up and down, the anti-sway bar transfers movement to the other wheel. This creates a more level ride and reduces vehicle sway. In particular, it combats the roll of a car on its suspension as it corners. For this reason, almost all cars today are fitted with anti-sway bars as standard equipment, although if they're not, kits make it easy to install the bars at any time"