US Yaris crash test are in

[oehtam]

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ncap/cars/3846.html

[pennystocks]

Just be cautious when running yellow lights :)

[Packy]

^LOL!

Hrm... not horrible, but not that impressive. Almost the same as a Scion xB, except the xB got 4 stars for rear side impact.

[corey415]

Hmm, not the greatest scores. The Honda Fit actually fared better according to this test.

[El Jefe]

damn i could watch those all day, i want that job!!!

[Uglyboyed]

me too.. that job seems awesome!!! well the test are'nt terrible, but are'nt good at the same time. I still love my car

[Packy]

Yeah, Fit got 5/5/5/3.

[stuffy]

is there a crash test for the hatchback?

[Violin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGrNBxfpXVg

[swng]

Great tests!
The published results in respect of the sedan are not bad for a small car, though admittedly not excellent. The test shown in the video about the HB (called LB in the US) is very illustrative but apparently there are no ratings shown. However, I would say the HB's performance is obviously quite good, at least for a small car. Too bad that there are no side airbags on my car.
I submit that active safety (that includes driving safely) is as important as passive safety (that's what the tests have tried to rate/illustrate), and we good Yaris drivers can/should drive in a smart/defensive way to avoid crashes as far as possible.
Thanks for posting the links!

[static808]

be careful if you're basing purchases off of these tests, since many toyotas/scions tested by the nhtsa have side airbags as optional. if thats the case, the test vehicle probably WONT have those airbags in place. in this case, they werent there, and that can account for a moderate side impact score. when nhtsa re-tests cars with side airbags equipped, the impact scores increase dramatically (happens with a bunch of domestic cars...gotta keep american car companies in business, so re-test the vehicle and advertise the better safety scores) also, the institute of highway safety test scores provide a better gauge of vehicle safety (more realistic impact scenarios), especially with the insane number of SUVs out there (nhtsa tests dont hit cars high enough, therefore not correctly replicating an impact from an SUV). if you want pretty accurate safety test scores, you can also check out the euro scores for cars. i think the tests there are usually pretty rigid and demanding, meaning if they do well there, they should do well fairly well (if not better) here.

--B

[Violin]

I think that the Yaris sold in Europe has a full compliment of air bags including a knee air bag that we can't even get. Toyota hates North America, the US in particular, and wants us all to die painful deaths.

If you watch the video, you can appreciate how important the side curtain air bag is. Wish I could have found a Yaris with them.

[MrMondayNite]

I've seen Yaris Side Air Bags sold on ebay for either $650 or $750, I wonder if a dealer can install these airbags in a non side air bag car.

[acrbill]

That video just scared the crap out of me! Imagine what would have happened to that dummy's head without that side curtain bag.

Toyota should have upped the HP so we at least had a chance of getting away from a potential accident.

[BMGYaris]

HEY, i just wanted to point out to you guys that this has been out for a while, plus, the head injury criteron was not used in calculating the side impact star ratings which means that the side curtain airbags would not have improved the star rating any. The side airbags do come with lower torso side airbags, but they, according to nhtsa, generallly only decreased the serious injuries by about10% (note, not 10% of total crashes, but 10% of serious injuries) which means that side airbags would not really do anything to improve that score much at all.

[static808]

Originally Posted by BMGYaris

HEY, i just wanted to point out to you guys that this has been out for a while, plus, the head injury criteron was not used in calculating the side impact star ratings which means that the side curtain airbags would not have improved the star rating any. The side airbags do come with lower torso side airbags, but they, according to nhtsa, generallly only decreased the serious injuries by about10% (note, not 10% of total crashes, but 10% of serious injuries) which means that side airbags would not really do anything to improve that score much at all.

guess the new iihs test kind of disproves that theory stated by the nhtsa. i'm telling you, all toyota needs to do to get more "5 star" ratings would be to bribe the govt officials a little more. i mean, from the iihs results, going from a "poor" rating to a "good" rating certainly doesnt sound like a 10 percent decrease in serious injury to me. that sounds like the difference between walking and having to eat through a plastic tube...

--B

[BMGYaris]

Originally Posted by static808

guess the new iihs test kind of disproves that theory stated by the nhtsa. i'm telling you, all toyota needs to do to get more "5 star" ratings would be to bribe the govt officials a little more. i mean, from the iihs results, going from a "poor" rating to a "good" rating certainly doesnt sound like a 10 percent decrease in serious injury to me. that sounds like the difference between walking and having to eat through a plastic tube...

--B

YEA i have to agree. I am having a hard time finding a way for the numbers presented by the NHTSA and the dramataic changes in the iihs testing to line up. Like i said, the head injury criteron was not factored into the NHSTA side impact rating (imagine how bad the Scion XB would be rated if it had...lol, its pretty high) and the effectivness of torso airbags has been proven through testing and real life data to be of minimal effectiveness. It probably has something to do with the new IIHS testing procedures, where there might not be as much lower body damage done with a higher impact SUV penetration. Consequently the torso damage is drastically reduced and head damage drasticaly increased. thus the damage reported by NHTSA was removed (the lower body damage) and the head injuries were also prevented via airbags. Thus in the new IIHS testing procedures the yaris was able to score very well, where as in an impact with a smaller car causing lower body damage it would still perform only moderately, just as reorted by the NHTSA. ANYWAY, thats the only conclusion i can come up with.


Also, as to side airbag aftermarket availability. there are many companies that will install aftermarket side airbags, but there is alot of question as to their reliability...I mean, its not like you are going to get to test it out, and you may have only time when you need it--would suck for it not to come out and figure out you got ripped off as the grill of an SUV tears off your head.

Also, if you have ever played poker, you know that a 10% difference can be huge. Damn 10% suck outs, got to love them, but shit they hit 10% of the time, feels like 40% sometimes.
10% is a 1 out of every 10 people..thats alot of lives saved.

[static808]

Originally Posted by BMGYaris

YEA i have to agree. I am having a hard time finding a way for the numbers presented by the NHTSA and the dramataic changes in the iihs testing to line up. Like i said, the head injury criteron was not factored into the NHSTA side impact rating (imagine how bad the Scion XB would be rated if it had...lol, its pretty high) and the effectivness of torso airbags has been proven through testing and real life data to be of minimal effectiveness. It probably has something to do with the new IIHS testing procedures, where there might not be as much lower body damage done with a higher impact SUV penetration. Consequently the torso damage is drastically reduced and head damage drasticaly increased. thus the damage reported by NHTSA was removed (the lower body damage) and the head injuries were also prevented via airbags. Thus in the new IIHS testing procedures the yaris was able to score very well, where as in an impact with a smaller car causing lower body damage it would still perform only moderately, just as reorted by the NHTSA. ANYWAY, thats the only conclusion i can come up with.

i agree as well. the iihs side impact involved a barrier that is more indicative of an SUV impact, so the bigger the barrier, the larger the area to displace the impact forces, meaning more force going to the head and a little taken away from the torso. the nhtsa test pretty much concentrates the impact force on the torso, so i agree that the yaris will test lower on the nhtsa and higher on the iihs. i live in the land of SUVs though (SoCal), so the iihs tests pertain more to me. very good comparsion of the tests BMG...

--B