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Old 12-21-2006, 07:45 PM   #1
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guess the new iihs test kind of disproves that theory stated by the nhtsa. i'm telling you, all toyota needs to do to get more "5 star" ratings would be to bribe the govt officials a little more. i mean, from the iihs results, going from a "poor" rating to a "good" rating certainly doesnt sound like a 10 percent decrease in serious injury to me. that sounds like the difference between walking and having to eat through a plastic tube...

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YEA i have to agree. I am having a hard time finding a way for the numbers presented by the NHTSA and the dramataic changes in the iihs testing to line up. Like i said, the head injury criteron was not factored into the NHSTA side impact rating (imagine how bad the Scion XB would be rated if it had...lol, its pretty high) and the effectivness of torso airbags has been proven through testing and real life data to be of minimal effectiveness. It probably has something to do with the new IIHS testing procedures, where there might not be as much lower body damage done with a higher impact SUV penetration. Consequently the torso damage is drastically reduced and head damage drasticaly increased. thus the damage reported by NHTSA was removed (the lower body damage) and the head injuries were also prevented via airbags. Thus in the new IIHS testing procedures the yaris was able to score very well, where as in an impact with a smaller car causing lower body damage it would still perform only moderately, just as reorted by the NHTSA. ANYWAY, thats the only conclusion i can come up with.


Also, as to side airbag aftermarket availability. there are many companies that will install aftermarket side airbags, but there is alot of question as to their reliability...I mean, its not like you are going to get to test it out, and you may have only time when you need it--would suck for it not to come out and figure out you got ripped off as the grill of an SUV tears off your head.

Also, if you have ever played poker, you know that a 10% difference can be huge. Damn 10% suck outs, got to love them, but shit they hit 10% of the time, feels like 40% sometimes.
10% is a 1 out of every 10 people..thats alot of lives saved.
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Old 12-22-2006, 12:31 AM   #2
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YEA i have to agree. I am having a hard time finding a way for the numbers presented by the NHTSA and the dramataic changes in the iihs testing to line up. Like i said, the head injury criteron was not factored into the NHSTA side impact rating (imagine how bad the Scion XB would be rated if it had...lol, its pretty high) and the effectivness of torso airbags has been proven through testing and real life data to be of minimal effectiveness. It probably has something to do with the new IIHS testing procedures, where there might not be as much lower body damage done with a higher impact SUV penetration. Consequently the torso damage is drastically reduced and head damage drasticaly increased. thus the damage reported by NHTSA was removed (the lower body damage) and the head injuries were also prevented via airbags. Thus in the new IIHS testing procedures the yaris was able to score very well, where as in an impact with a smaller car causing lower body damage it would still perform only moderately, just as reorted by the NHTSA. ANYWAY, thats the only conclusion i can come up with.
i agree as well. the iihs side impact involved a barrier that is more indicative of an SUV impact, so the bigger the barrier, the larger the area to displace the impact forces, meaning more force going to the head and a little taken away from the torso. the nhtsa test pretty much concentrates the impact force on the torso, so i agree that the yaris will test lower on the nhtsa and higher on the iihs. i live in the land of SUVs though (SoCal), so the iihs tests pertain more to me. very good comparsion of the tests BMG...

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Old 12-22-2006, 03:13 PM   #3
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I did some serious research when purchasing my Yaris as I wanted to get the side curtain airbags. At the time, I was willing to have the car shipped from anywhere in the country. The problem was, of all dealers I called across the nation, none had a carw ith side curtains nor had they ever received one. So even though this is listed as a possible option, I think Toyota underestimated it's demand. They either didn't make many '07 models with this option or they made none. Personally, I think they made none considering my efforts to obtain one from at least 25 dealerships came up blank. I waited three months on many "waiting lists" and all I was ever offered was the winter package and ABS, neither of which I need. I ended up buying a car locally with a winter package but not the ABS. I would still love to have the curtains but so it goes...
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