Getting Rid of That Space! - Toyota Yaris Forums

chrisj · 08-31-2010, 12:09 PM

I recently put on some 17-inch rims, but hate all that gap between the tire and the wheel well. I have a question about it.

Would it be possible to get a different tire size for the rim that would help take up all that slack space without looking ridiculous? That would be my alternative to lowering the car on the tires. Is something like that possible, and what would it look like?

DeathBeard · 08-31-2010, 12:21 PM

what tire size are you running right now?

Klink10 · 08-31-2010, 01:01 PM

I'm in the same boat you are except I'm dealing with 16's. Trying to keep the same wheel diameter that was with my previous wheel package. It appears you might be running 30's or 40's. You could always go up (45/50/55/60) as far as tires go or just plan on some kind of lowering with either a spring/damper kit or coilovers. I wouldn't know about the look as far as the tire wheel combo but those seem to be the only solutions to your dilema as far as decreasing gap that I can see.

33OH · 08-31-2010, 01:51 PM

It is possible to fill it more with a larger profile but it will not eliminate the wheel gap and it will also raise your car.

I would just lower it.

why? · 08-31-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 33OH

It is possible to fill it more with a larger profile but it will not eliminate the wheel gap and it will also raise your car.

I would just lower it.

What he said.

Also using different size tires could mess up your speedo and odometer, and will of course change how your car handles as well.

With the MI springs being so inexpensive, they are a natural fit.MI springs.

chrisj · 08-31-2010, 04:15 PM

Thanks for the info. Idiot me thought when I changed from the stock 14's to the 17's that the tire would fill in that gap. Of course, with a low-profile tire that doesn't happen.

I will check into those springs. Another ? How much to lower safely? I had been reading 1.5 inches or 2 inches. What about load? If I get 4 people in the car, are the tires gonna rub?

:/

chrisj · 08-31-2010, 04:16 PM

Okay, sorry. I clicked the springs link and saw it was 1.75 inches. But still, how about load? Obviously I have never done these things to a car before.

33OH · 08-31-2010, 04:45 PM

Most of that depends on the width and offset of your wheels, and also tire size.

The back of the rim will say ETxx (xx being a 2 digit number) - that is your offset.
Your wheel will also say 17 x ? JJ (the ? being the width in inches).
And tire size? 205/40/17 (just an example - 205 is width in mm, 40 is profile, 17 is rim size)

If you let us know these, we can let you know if you will rub or not.

*kimona* · 08-31-2010, 07:28 PM

You haven't indicated your current tyre size.

chrisj · 08-31-2010, 09:14 PM

Sorry again, they are 205/40R17

Klink10 · 08-31-2010, 09:34 PM

My bad on the profile thought as I didn't think about what happens on top also occurs at the bottom. Ding.

What 330H said, offset is an important number to know I found out.

*kimona* · 08-31-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisj

Sorry again, they are 205/40R17

On stock suspension, 205/40's look ridiculously short. Toyota OEM 17's are 205/45's.

Many people install 205/40's when upgrading because they are dirt cheap compared to 205/45's... and they fit quite well with a significant drop. But, with a mild to moderate drop, I think 205/40's are still too short.

In Japan, Vitz enthusiasts sometimes install 205/50/17's on stock suspension... and although they are a bit tall, they look good and apparently work well unloaded.

sleey0 · 08-31-2010, 10:59 PM

205/40's work well on 17's with any drop, from 1.1" to 2.0".

chrisj · 08-31-2010, 11:56 PM

Thanks for the responses.

So, if I go with 205/50/17's then I won't need to lower? And if I do go that 1.75" lower the 205/40/17's I have now will look okay?

33OH · 09-01-2010, 10:23 AM

You'll still have wheel gap. Only way to get rid of it is to go lower.

Here are 205/50/17's on a stock Yaris sedan.

chrisj · 09-01-2010, 10:43 AM

Thanks for the pics. I see with the 50's there is more sidewall, right? Okay.

DeathBeard · 09-01-2010, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisj

Thanks for the pics. I see with the 50's there is more sidewall, right? Okay.

lol, double confirmation

MUSKOKA800 · 09-01-2010, 12:08 PM

Lowering is your best resolution.
Taller than stock tires may fill the gap however IMO the negatives are considerable.
More overall wheel weight brings slower accelleration, decreased brake effect and a raised are never handles as well.

On the good side those tall speed bumps will be less of an issue.

08-31-2010, 12:21 PM	#2
DeathBeard Drives: 2010 Yaris S Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 574	what tire size are you running right now? __________________ "In his heart a man plans his course, but the Lord determines his steps." Proverbs 16:9

08-31-2010, 04:45 PM	#8
33OH Drives: '08 Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dover, Ohio Posts: 7,606	Most of that depends on the width and offset of your wheels, and also tire size. The back of the rim will say ETxx (xx being a 2 digit number) - that is your offset. Your wheel will also say 17 x ? JJ (the ? being the width in inches). And tire size? 205/40/17 (just an example - 205 is width in mm, 40 is profile, 17 is rim size) If you let us know these, we can let you know if you will rub or not.

09-01-2010, 12:08 PM	#18
MUSKOKA800 Drives: Scion FRS RS2, ‘21 Crosstrek Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chatham, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,729	Lowering is your best resolution. Taller than stock tires may fill the gap however IMO the negatives are considerable. More overall wheel weight brings slower accelleration, decreased brake effect and a raised are never handles as well. On the good side those tall speed bumps will be less of an issue. __________________ TRD Upgrades: 18" Wheels wrapped in 215/35/18 PZero's, Sportivo Shocks/Struts, Lowering Springs, Swaybar, Axle-Back Exhaust, Oil Cap, Rad Cap, Signage. Aftermarket Goodies: Piggies SS, K&N Drop-In, Blitz S/C, DC Header, NST Pulley) Toyota Options/Accessories: Sport Pedal Covers, Sport Shift Knob, Ipod Interface, Summer Mats, Winter Mats, Cruise Control, Auto-Dim Mirror, Echo steelies with winter boots.

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08-31-2010, 01:01 PM	#3
Klink10 View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 910 Posts: 1,229	I'm in the same boat you are except I'm dealing with 16's. Trying to keep the same wheel diameter that was with my previous wheel package. It appears you might be running 30's or 40's. You could always go up (45/50/55/60) as far as tires go or just plan on some kind of lowering with either a spring/damper kit or coilovers. I wouldn't know about the look as far as the tire wheel combo but those seem to be the only solutions to your dilema as far as decreasing gap that I can see.

08-31-2010, 01:51 PM	#4
33OH Drives: '08 Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dover, Ohio Posts: 7,606	It is possible to fill it more with a larger profile but it will not eliminate the wheel gap and it will also raise your car. I would just lower it.

08-31-2010, 04:15 PM	#6
chrisj Hooch Brewer-Shine Sipper View User's Garage Drives: 2009 5-dr LB Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: S. Jesus, Kentucky Posts: 646	Thanks for the info. Idiot me thought when I changed from the stock 14's to the 17's that the tire would fill in that gap. Of course, with a low-profile tire that doesn't happen. I will check into those springs. Another ? How much to lower safely? I had been reading 1.5 inches or 2 inches. What about load? If I get 4 people in the car, are the tires gonna rub? :/

08-31-2010, 04:16 PM	#7
chrisj Hooch Brewer-Shine Sipper View User's Garage Drives: 2009 5-dr LB Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: S. Jesus, Kentucky Posts: 646	Okay, sorry. I clicked the springs link and saw it was 1.75 inches. But still, how about load? Obviously I have never done these things to a car before.

08-31-2010, 07:28 PM	#9
kimona Super Moderator Drives: 2014 White VITZ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Bch, CA Posts: 4,938	You haven't indicated your current tyre size.

08-31-2010, 09:14 PM	#10
chrisj Hooch Brewer-Shine Sipper View User's Garage Drives: 2009 5-dr LB Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: S. Jesus, Kentucky Posts: 646	Sorry again, they are 205/40R17

08-31-2010, 09:34 PM	#11
Klink10 View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 910 Posts: 1,229	My bad on the profile thought as I didn't think about what happens on top also occurs at the bottom. Ding. What 330H said, offset is an important number to know I found out.

08-31-2010, 10:59 PM	#13
sleey0 Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA Posts: 899	205/40's work well on 17's with any drop, from 1.1" to 2.0".

08-31-2010, 11:56 PM	#14
chrisj Hooch Brewer-Shine Sipper View User's Garage Drives: 2009 5-dr LB Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: S. Jesus, Kentucky Posts: 646	Thanks for the responses. So, if I go with 205/50/17's then I won't need to lower? And if I do go that 1.75" lower the 205/40/17's I have now will look okay?

09-01-2010, 10:23 AM	#15
33OH Drives: '08 Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dover, Ohio Posts: 7,606	You'll still have wheel gap. Only way to get rid of it is to go lower. Here are 205/50/17's on a stock Yaris sedan.

09-01-2010, 10:43 AM	#16
chrisj Hooch Brewer-Shine Sipper View User's Garage Drives: 2009 5-dr LB Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: S. Jesus, Kentucky Posts: 646	Thanks for the pics. I see with the 50's there is more sidewall, right? Okay.