Tire Wear - Toyota Yaris Forums

CoolRunner · 05-31-2011, 05:31 PM

What is causing my front tires to wear like this? Are the tires crap, do I need new struts, or is it something else?

WeeYari · 05-31-2011, 05:34 PM

What kind of tires are they?

Is only one, or both showing the same type of wear?

How do the rear tires look in comparison?

OTA'sTOY · 05-31-2011, 05:36 PM

what yr is the car?

is it the original tires?

how many miles on car/tires?

ilikerice · 05-31-2011, 05:44 PM

also, are you rotating them every 5k-10k miles? looks like normal front tire wear to me on crappy tires that havent been rotated. Maybe gone a few hundred miles below 30psi before rechecking?

WeeYari · 05-31-2011, 05:49 PM

+1

Check your pressure. It kinda looks like underinflated wear to me. Not that I've ever personally seen that, just guessing.

CoolRunner · 05-31-2011, 06:18 PM

Thanks for the replies. It is a 2008 yaris with 40,000 miles on the car. I bought the car used, so I am assuming the tires also have 40,000 miles on them. Both of the front tires look worn like in the picture, however both the rear tires look fine. It has been a while since I have rotated the tires, maybe a year ago. We only put several thousand miles on the tires/yr. I have religiously filled the tires with air when ever the tire pressure warning light comes on. The tires are Good Year Eagle LS.

SailDesign · 05-31-2011, 09:01 PM

OK - the Tire Pressure sensors come on at around 17psi - that's about a half of the recommended pressure. if this keeps happening (clue is in "every time the light comes on")
This means you are running probably 80% of the time with seriously under-inflated tires.
Cure: Go to a tire shop and replace the fronts with the same tire as is there now, or replace all 4 to match. And make sure that there is no slow leak, which you obviously have now.

R2D2 · 05-31-2011, 09:32 PM

I agree this looks like an underinflation issue.

It appears all the "strange" wear is at the outside edges. From the photo it appears the rest of the tire is wearing well. If those LS have that much tread left after 40k you are doing well otherwise. Most people who have them can't seem to get many miles out of them. Fix the leaks and or replace them.

Also (at risk of getting lambasted), try running closer to max sidewall pressure and marvel at the improved mpg, better wear and improved handling!

R2

RedRide · 05-31-2011, 11:14 PM

Agreed....... it shows the classic signs of underinflation.

detroiter · 06-01-2011, 11:22 AM

If you wait until the light comes on to inflate them, your waiting too long. The light is just letting you know that something is wrong and you need to get it taken care of. Alot of people with a Yaris, depending on the tire requirements, set their PSI to about 34 for a near stock setting and a pinch firmer than the usual 32 PSI.

RedRide · 06-01-2011, 03:08 PM

Consider the tire pressure sensors like idiot lights. They only warn you when things have gotten so bad that it's often too late.
Soon, we will have sensors to tell the driver when the windshield is dirty.

Slowly but shurely, cars are being designed for complete idiots, the exact same people you do no want on the road! Can't park a car because your driving skills are ridiculously bad? Tha't's OK, we have a car that wiill park itself.
Can't add 6+6? That's OK, we have a car that wiil do that for you.....

thebarber · 06-01-2011, 04:55 PM

low pressure or overheated from heavy cornering loads...

thepartsmancometh · 06-01-2011, 10:23 PM

don't buy more Goodyears though, buy four DECENT tires and start fresh. make sure to rotate religiously

SailDesign · 06-02-2011, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRide

Can't park a car because your driving skills are ridiculously bad? Tha't's OK, we have a car that wiill park itself.

Can you sue the manufacturer if the car scuffs your alloys on the curb? Sure hope so!

MUSKOKA800 · 06-04-2011, 06:56 PM

Goodyear LS;
Any reason is a great excuse to dispose of them. Quite frankly, they're crap. And 40,000 miles is well past their normal life expectancy.
What does LS stand for anyway, LouSy?

thepartsmancometh · 06-04-2011, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MUSKOKA800

Goodyear LS;
Any reason is a great excuse to dispose of them. Quite frankly, they're crap. And 40,000 miles is well past their normal life expectancy.
What does LS stand for anyway, LouSy?

Lots of Suckiness?

Ours had 40k on them too and were about 4/32" of tread depth left. That was close enough for me lol

RedRide · 06-05-2011, 12:04 AM

Yeah, the G-LS are about the worst tires I ever got with a new car. I could not get rid of them fast enough.
I replaced them with cheap, Yokohama "Avid-TRZ" and even those cheap tires are like night and day better than the LS.

SailDesign · 06-05-2011, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRide

Yeah, the G-LS are about the worst tires I ever got with a new car. I could not get rid of them fast enough.
I replaced them with cheap, Yokohama "Avid-TRZ" and even those cheap tires are like night and day better than the LS.

Ahhh - you never had an early Yaris with the Bridgestone RE92 tires. THEY were even worse..... I was so glad to see the '09 came with GoodYears, and they were much better. Honest!

05-31-2011, 05:34 PM	#2
WeeYari View User's Garage Drives: 06 Polar White 5dr, 13 Soul 4u Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,809	What kind of tires are they? Is only one, or both showing the same type of wear? How do the rear tires look in comparison? __________________

05-31-2011, 05:36 PM	#3
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05-31-2011, 05:49 PM	#5
WeeYari View User's Garage Drives: 06 Polar White 5dr, 13 Soul 4u Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,809	+1 Check your pressure. It kinda looks like underinflated wear to me. Not that I've ever personally seen that, just guessing. __________________

05-31-2011, 09:32 PM	#8
R2D2 Crazy Oil Sniffer Drives: MM 09 Yaris 5 Dr LB "Click" Join Date: May 2009 Location: ME Posts: 498	I agree this looks like an underinflation issue. It appears all the "strange" wear is at the outside edges. From the photo it appears the rest of the tire is wearing well. If those LS have that much tread left after 40k you are doing well otherwise. Most people who have them can't seem to get many miles out of them. Fix the leaks and or replace them. Also (at risk of getting lambasted), try running closer to max sidewall pressure and marvel at the improved mpg, better wear and improved handling! R2 __________________ "The howl was the sound of God’s casting pot, the morphing of my cells into shape, the forming of oceans out of molten premordial plasma. And I could feel it. I could cry for it. I could cry with it." -The Fitful One

06-01-2011, 11:22 AM	#10
detroiter Drives: 2008 Polar White LB Auto Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,238	If you wait until the light comes on to inflate them, your waiting too long. The light is just letting you know that something is wrong and you need to get it taken care of. Alot of people with a Yaris, depending on the tire requirements, set their PSI to about 34 for a near stock setting and a pinch firmer than the usual 32 PSI. __________________ I live my life a quarter pounder at a time. And for those 500 calories or more, I'm free. I need FRIES! Two of them. The big ones. Oh, and I need them tonight. You're lucky the double shot of BBQ sauce didn't blow the seam on your nugget box. There she is, 2 pounds of pure beef. My dad ate it in 9.0 seconds flat. Check it out, it's like this. If I lose, winner takes my happy meal. But if I win, I take the burger and the toy. To some people, that's more important.

05-31-2011, 05:44 PM	#4
ilikerice Drives: 2010 black yaris Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: savannah, ga Posts: 2,868	also, are you rotating them every 5k-10k miles? looks like normal front tire wear to me on crappy tires that havent been rotated. Maybe gone a few hundred miles below 30psi before rechecking?

05-31-2011, 06:18 PM	#6
CoolRunner Drives: Yaris Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 2	Thanks for the replies. It is a 2008 yaris with 40,000 miles on the car. I bought the car used, so I am assuming the tires also have 40,000 miles on them. Both of the front tires look worn like in the picture, however both the rear tires look fine. It has been a while since I have rotated the tires, maybe a year ago. We only put several thousand miles on the tires/yr. I have religiously filled the tires with air when ever the tire pressure warning light comes on. The tires are Good Year Eagle LS.

05-31-2011, 09:01 PM	#7
SailDesign Drives: . Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,931	OK - the Tire Pressure sensors come on at around 17psi - that's about a half of the recommended pressure. if this keeps happening (clue is in "every time the light comes on") This means you are running probably 80% of the time with seriously under-inflated tires. Cure: Go to a tire shop and replace the fronts with the same tire as is there now, or replace all 4 to match. And make sure that there is no slow leak, which you obviously have now.

05-31-2011, 11:14 PM	#9
RedRide Drives: '09 Yaris carmine red 2d HB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 1,502	Agreed....... it shows the classic signs of underinflation.

06-01-2011, 03:08 PM	#11
RedRide Drives: '09 Yaris carmine red 2d HB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 1,502	Consider the tire pressure sensors like idiot lights. They only warn you when things have gotten so bad that it's often too late. Soon, we will have sensors to tell the driver when the windshield is dirty. Slowly but shurely, cars are being designed for complete idiots, the exact same people you do no want on the road! Can't park a car because your driving skills are ridiculously bad? Tha't's OK, we have a car that wiill park itself. Can't add 6+6? That's OK, we have a car that wiil do that for you.....

06-01-2011, 04:55 PM	#12
thebarber daily driver View User's Garage Drives: the #wrecho Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,877	low pressure or overheated from heavy cornering loads... __________________

06-01-2011, 10:23 PM	#13
thepartsmancometh Drives: '08 LB, '07 WRX Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: midwest Posts: 187	don't buy more Goodyears though, buy four DECENT tires and start fresh. make sure to rotate religiously

06-04-2011, 06:56 PM	#15
MUSKOKA800 Drives: Scion FRS RS2, ‘21 Crosstrek Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chatham, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,729	Goodyear LS; Any reason is a great excuse to dispose of them. Quite frankly, they're crap. And 40,000 miles is well past their normal life expectancy. What does LS stand for anyway, LouSy? __________________ TRD Upgrades: 18" Wheels wrapped in 215/35/18 PZero's, Sportivo Shocks/Struts, Lowering Springs, Swaybar, Axle-Back Exhaust, Oil Cap, Rad Cap, Signage. Aftermarket Goodies: Piggies SS, K&N Drop-In, Blitz S/C, DC Header, NST Pulley) Toyota Options/Accessories: Sport Pedal Covers, Sport Shift Knob, Ipod Interface, Summer Mats, Winter Mats, Cruise Control, Auto-Dim Mirror, Echo steelies with winter boots.

06-05-2011, 12:04 AM	#17
RedRide Drives: '09 Yaris carmine red 2d HB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 1,502	Yeah, the G-LS are about the worst tires I ever got with a new car. I could not get rid of them fast enough. I replaced them with cheap, Yokohama "Avid-TRZ" and even those cheap tires are like night and day better than the LS.

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