tooter's manifold adventure... - Page 28 - Toyota Yaris Forums

tooter · 08-06-2012, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flipper_1938

Then go bolt that sucker on!!!!

I'm itching to do just that... but I'm also up to my neck in work making money so that I can afford to play with this project in my spare time. This week is especially busy, but I'll try to get it going as soon as I can.

Next up is customizing the intake to fit the new location of the throttlebody, as well as relocating all of the hoses to fit their new locations.

ljming99 · 08-06-2012, 01:51 AM

Well, do remember to keep any changes to the hoses documented. It would be a plus when this becomes a complete kit.

Anyway, i ever though of getting the weapon r and then customising it to fit a yaris...but that would be spending insane amount of money ...and i wouldnt wanna risk spoiling a sexy bling bling weapon r manifold.

Anyway, you are paying for the bling bling "exotic" material for a weapon r manifold.
They could have kept cost down, at least get from profit for making an affordable manifold made of common material =P

cali yaris · 08-06-2012, 02:03 AM

Quote:

getting the weapon r and then customising it to fit a yaris...but that would be spending insane amount of money .

I'm afraid to ask tooter what he spent so far!

tooter · 08-06-2012, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ljming99

Well, do remember to keep any changes to the hoses documented. It would be a plus when this becomes a complete kit.

Anyway, i ever though of getting the weapon r and then customising it to fit a yaris...but that would be spending insane amount of money ...and i wouldnt wanna risk spoiling a sexy bling bling weapon r manifold.

Anyway, you are paying for the bling bling "exotic" material for a weapon r manifold.
They could have kept cost down, at least get from profit for making an affordable manifold made of common material =P

They're certainly nice looking...

WeSellCarParts.com sells them for $510, and they're on ebay for only $504.

cali yaris · 08-06-2012, 02:28 AM

^ Do they have one in stock?

tooter · 08-06-2012, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

^ Do they have one in stock?

Just did a price sensitive search and found that Ebay seller...

tunedcustoms

...is currently selling them for only $460 +$9 shipping. They have sold one so far and have more than 10 available for sale. In fact, there are quite a few xB manifold sellers on ebay.

You were right about there not being much of an aftermarket manifold market. Looks like the prices have been dropping significantly.

tooter · 08-06-2012, 11:16 AM

The latest list of guesses:

malibu +4 -6
Tooter +2 -3
Mazilla +1,000
Garm -5 -5
Anomaly +1 -3
Ljming -3 +3
BEEF +3 -2
Goldeenoh +5 -3
Goliath 0 0
tk-421 +4 -3
Yoda +4 +3
Jason -12 -18
packet +5 +3
Maitre +2 +4
Jeff -3HP -10TQ
Bluevitz-RS +4hp +6Tq
Scubaru Steve 0hp +10Tq
Flipper_1938 +6hp +4 ft lbs
Viperoni +2 -5
enviri +3hp 0tq
xnamerxx -10hp -10tq
CTScott -2hp +4tq
eTiMaGo 0 0
Billiam

+ 1,000,000

cali yaris · 08-06-2012, 11:27 AM

Awesome.

tooter · 08-06-2012, 09:56 PM

Oh man, this is killing me...

There is no way to shorten the intake enough to use the BLOX velocity stack with its 7 inch tall filter...

They don't make shorter filters that have a 6 inch opening. The other options are getting a cold air intake, or going with some shorter filter with no velocity stack.

Can anyone offer any suggestions on a decent 2 1/2" inlet dry filter that's 5 inches tall?

I'm even thinking of cutting off the top of the Blox filter and gluing on a plastic lid to make it work. I really don't want to give up the velocity stack as it does a beautiful job of smoothing the airflow to the MAF even though it's right on top of it.

edit: Hey wait... I think I know what to do!

If I glue a 6 inch diameter plastic ring onto the skirt of the velocity stack, I can collapse the whole assembly a couple of inches into the filter. :thumbsup" I only need it to be 2 inches shorter as I gained about a half an inch with a smaller coupler.

malibuguy · 08-06-2012, 10:42 PM

You may be able to shorten the outlet of the stack a little bit to shove the maf pipe in the coupler a little deeper

tooter · 08-06-2012, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malibuguy

You may be able to shorten the outlet of the stack a little bit to shove the maf pipe in the coupler a little deeper

It won't shorten it enough, and I don't want to mess with the stack itself because it works so well as it is. However, being able to shove the stack up into the interior of the filter a couple of inches will work because the filter is already so large. I only need to find a short scrap of plastic tubing with an outside diameter of exactly 6 inches and I have it made.

This has to be resolved, as a working filter is essential for the dyno run. And I definitely do not want to lose the velocity stack because that would be making two changes, and not just the manifold as the only change.

vten · 08-06-2012, 11:52 PM

If you don't mind using the k&n brand , I can give you the part number ... I believe mine is 4" taller with the 6" opening inlet .

And if you need to retrofitted any CAI , my AEM CAI is still available for sale :)

tooter · 08-07-2012, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vten

If you don't mind using the k&n brand , I can give you the part number ... I believe mine is 4" taller with the 6" opening inlet .

And if you need to retrofitted any CAI , my AEM CAI is still available for sale :)

Thanks for the offer...

...but I want to stay away from oily filters and live in an area that is subject to flooding in winter, and so want to avoid putting a filter down in the fenderwell. I'm going to go for the 6 inch plastic sleeve added to the skirt of the velocity stack. That way I will be able to retain both the filter and the stack, and simply collapse one into the other until it's short enough to fit.

I don't want to break the rule of making the manifold be the only change, so that the dyno runs will reflect only the difference in manifolds and nothing else.

eTiMaGo · 08-07-2012, 01:10 AM

use a different filter first, then take out the headlight and fit the Blox setup just for the dyno? Or, change that silicone coupler to a 90 degree one so you could aim the filter downward and gain a little bit of space?

cali yaris · 08-07-2012, 01:12 AM

or a smaller battery, which won't affect a dyno. I made space that way.

Quote:

...but I want to stay away from oily filters

AFE Pro Dry S filters.

tooter · 08-07-2012, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

or a smaller battery, which won't affect a dyno. I made space that way.

AFE Pro Dry S filters.

Does AFE make a 5 inch tall dry filter with a 6 inch inlet?

tooter · 08-07-2012, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eTiMaGo

Or, change that silicone coupler to a 90 degree one so you could aim the filter downward and gain a little bit of space?

Hey, thanks TiM...

That might just be the ticket.

I'll try holding the air filter vertically to check the downward clearance. If it clears, I'll simply get a 90 and resolve the whole issue. Maybe even a 45 would work.

tooter · 08-07-2012, 01:51 AM

BINGO.

Checked the clearance, and a 45 degree silicone elbow will angle it down quick enough to fit the whole filter/velocity stack assembly just as it is. Just ordered one off ebay. $15 and a few days I'm back in business.

TiM, you're a lifesaver! It's funny how other people can see such easy simple solutions because they are looking at things from a slightly different "angle". The solution is literally an angle!

08-06-2012, 02:28 AM	#491
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08-06-2012, 11:27 AM	#494
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08-06-2012, 10:42 PM	#496
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08-06-2012, 01:51 AM	#488
ljming99 Drives: Yaris '06 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 73	Well, do remember to keep any changes to the hoses documented. It would be a plus when this becomes a complete kit. Anyway, i ever though of getting the weapon r and then customising it to fit a yaris...but that would be spending insane amount of money ...and i wouldnt wanna risk spoiling a sexy bling bling weapon r manifold. Anyway, you are paying for the bling bling "exotic" material for a weapon r manifold. They could have kept cost down, at least get from profit for making an affordable manifold made of common material =P

08-06-2012, 11:16 AM	#493
tooter play every day Drives: 2012 Yaris L 2dr 5sp Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,962	The latest list of guesses: malibu +4 -6 Tooter +2 -3 Mazilla +1,000 Garm -5 -5 Anomaly +1 -3 Ljming -3 +3 BEEF +3 -2 Goldeenoh +5 -3 Goliath 0 0 tk-421 +4 -3 Yoda +4 +3 Jason -12 -18 packet +5 +3 Maitre +2 +4 Jeff -3HP -10TQ Bluevitz-RS +4hp +6Tq Scubaru Steve 0hp +10Tq Flipper_1938 +6hp +4 ft lbs Viperoni +2 -5 enviri +3hp 0tq xnamerxx -10hp -10tq CTScott -2hp +4tq eTiMaGo 0 0 Billiam + 1,000,000

08-06-2012, 09:56 PM	#495
tooter play every day Drives: 2012 Yaris L 2dr 5sp Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,962	Oh man, this is killing me... There is no way to shorten the intake enough to use the BLOX velocity stack with its 7 inch tall filter... They don't make shorter filters that have a 6 inch opening. The other options are getting a cold air intake, or going with some shorter filter with no velocity stack. Can anyone offer any suggestions on a decent 2 1/2" inlet dry filter that's 5 inches tall? I'm even thinking of cutting off the top of the Blox filter and gluing on a plastic lid to make it work. I really don't want to give up the velocity stack as it does a beautiful job of smoothing the airflow to the MAF even though it's right on top of it. edit: Hey wait... I think I know what to do! If I glue a 6 inch diameter plastic ring onto the skirt of the velocity stack, I can collapse the whole assembly a couple of inches into the filter. :thumbsup" I only need it to be 2 inches shorter as I gained about a half an inch with a smaller coupler.

08-06-2012, 11:52 PM	#498
vten Drives: red bare bone yaris hb 3dr Join Date: May 2009 Location: columbus Posts: 1,022	If you don't mind using the k&n brand , I can give you the part number ... I believe mine is 4" taller with the 6" opening inlet . And if you need to retrofitted any CAI , my AEM CAI is still available for sale :)

08-07-2012, 01:51 AM	#504
tooter play every day Drives: 2012 Yaris L 2dr 5sp Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,962	BINGO. Checked the clearance, and a 45 degree silicone elbow will angle it down quick enough to fit the whole filter/velocity stack assembly just as it is. Just ordered one off ebay. $15 and a few days I'm back in business. TiM, you're a lifesaver! It's funny how other people can see such easy simple solutions because they are looking at things from a slightly different "angle". The solution is literally an angle!