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Old 10-24-2008, 01:01 PM   #1
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I'm just a bit doubtful if the stock ECU will be able to handle the better induction without throwing a code. It seems to have quite tight operating parameters which it considers "normal".

Will an aftermarket air filter be necessary, or can you just bolt the stock airbox back in?

Lots of questions but that's because I'm interested in the product. 10whp is too good a gain to turn down if it is plug and play.
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Old 10-24-2008, 01:25 PM   #2
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I'm just a bit doubtful if the stock ECU will be able to handle the better induction without throwing a code. It seems to have quite tight operating parameters which it considers "normal".

Will an aftermarket air filter be necessary, or can you just bolt the stock airbox back in?

Lots of questions but that's because I'm interested in the product. 10whp is too good a gain to turn down if it is plug and play.
If the TB remains in the same position which it think it does you should be able to use the stock airbox.... BUT,, why would you do that? In order to achive the full benefits of an Intake manifold the car will require a performance Intake and Exhaust. Other wise what would be the point to invest on the Intake Mani???
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Old 10-24-2008, 01:37 PM   #3
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ready and waiting.just wish there was a little more in the 4-5k range.
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Old 10-24-2008, 03:01 PM   #4
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This is not entirely accurate, as the intake will offer gains with the stock air box and exhaust. The combination of the intake, CAI and free-flowing exhaust will produce more power than the intake with a stock exhaust and air box, but the intake will still off the same percentage gains with both combinations.

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If the TB remains in the same position which it think it does you should be able to use the stock airbox.... BUT,, why would you do that? In order to achive the full benefits of an Intake manifold the car will require a performance Intake and Exhaust. Other wise what would be the point to invest on the Intake Mani???
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Old 10-24-2008, 02:48 PM   #5
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Please feel free to ask questions about the intake rather than resort to speculation. The intake offers the gains described by the dyno chart with no CEL and no changes to ECU. There are no programming changes necessary for the intake upgrade. The reason for this is the Yaris motor features a mass air meter which compensates for the additional airflow produced by the resonance tuning. The mass ai rmeter will address the extra airflow and offer the necessary extra fuel flow. The intake upgrade produced the same air/fuel curve as the stock manifold. These gains are not dependant on the CAI, but the combination of the CAI and intake will offer slightly more power than the intake and stock air box.

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I'm just a bit doubtful if the stock ECU will be able to handle the better induction without throwing a code. It seems to have quite tight operating parameters which it considers "normal".

Will an aftermarket air filter be necessary, or can you just bolt the stock airbox back in?

Lots of questions but that's because I'm interested in the product. 10whp is too good a gain to turn down if it is plug and play.
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:30 PM   #6
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Please feel free to ask questions about the intake rather than resort to speculation. The intake offers the gains described by the dyno chart with no CEL and no changes to ECU. There are no programming changes necessary for the intake upgrade. The reason for this is the Yaris motor features a mass air meter which compensates for the additional airflow produced by the resonance tuning. The mass ai rmeter will address the extra airflow and offer the necessary extra fuel flow. The intake upgrade produced the same air/fuel curve as the stock manifold. These gains are not dependant on the CAI, but the combination of the CAI and intake will offer slightly more power than the intake and stock air box.
Thank you. You told me exactly what I wanted to know. As you can see, I'm rather far away, so when the user dyno charts start flooding in confirming the performance increase, I'm buying one.

As you mention that it is a CNC-ed part, do you have problems with heatsoak from having it bolted to the engine, and then the manifold heating up the intake air temperature though? One of my mates tried a custom built stainless steel manifold on his engine, but abandoned the idea as intake temps jumped from an ambient of 100-110 degrees to 160 degrees, which ended up costing the engine power instead.
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^^^you need aluminium not stainless steel for an intake.^^^^
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Old 10-24-2008, 06:35 PM   #8
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I'm just a bit doubtful if the stock ECU will be able to handle the better induction without throwing a code. It seems to have quite tight operating parameters which it considers "normal".

Will an aftermarket air filter be necessary, or can you just bolt the stock airbox back in?

Lots of questions but that's because I'm interested in the product. 10whp is too good a gain to turn down if it is plug and play.
I'm running a supercharge tune on a N/A car, so yea. Don't jump to conclusions.

BTW, Mr. Richard Holdner, is this kit the top end one? Or is this the midrange one? I know there was a poll earlier. I didn't get to see what everyone had chosen.
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Old 10-24-2008, 07:08 PM   #9
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Thi sis the top end version-we willnot be offering the mid-range version.

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I'm running a supercharge tune on a N/A car, so yea. Don't jump to conclusions.

BTW, Mr. Richard Holdner, is this kit the top end one? Or is this the midrange one? I know there was a poll earlier. I didn't get to see what everyone had chosen.
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Thi sis the top end version-we willnot be offering the mid-range version.
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