Not sure where to start (2009 yaris)...

[roxy1]

the manaul transmission fit will never make up for its one fatal flaw. the gearing on it is ludicrous. when i test drove it, i was dumbfounded that it was spinning 3400 rpms at 70 mph. it had grown tiresome on my 20 minute test drive. its loud and buzzy. it ruined what would have been a sure sale for me. additionally, the profile of the new fit is as ugly as a car could get, like a little chunk of metal pulling a big long glass bubble behind it. still, i could have forgiven its ugliness if not for the gearing.

i think small hatchbacks are made to be driven with a stick and im hoping the next batch of subcompact hatches (focus/polo/et al...) will have better gearing in their manual trannies.

[427chev]

Originally Posted by roxy1

the manaul transmission fit will never make up for its one fatal flaw. the gearing on it is ludicrous. when i test drove it, i was dumbfounded that it was spinning 3400 rpms at 70 mph. it had grown tiresome on my 20 minute test drive. its loud and buzzy. it ruined what would have been a sure sale for me. additionally, the profile of the new fit is as ugly as a car could get, like a little chunk of metal pulling a big long glass bubble behind it. still, i could have forgiven its ugliness if not for the gearing.

i think small hatchbacks are made to be driven with a stick and im hoping the next batch of subcompact hatches (focus/polo/et al...) will have better gearing in their manual trannies.

What's kind of RPM is a 5 speed Yaris spinning @ 70MPH

Mine doesn't have a tach, but I guarantee it's close to 3,400 RPM and may even be higher.

[roxy1]

Originally Posted by 427chev

What's kind of RPM is a 5 speed Yaris spinning @ 70MPH:...................but I guarantee it's close to 3,400 RPM and may even be higher.

i think people w/ a scangauge have reported 3050-3100 rpms at 70 mph in the manual yaris.

[427chev]

Originally Posted by roxy1

i think people w/ a scangauge have reported 3050-3100 rpms at 70 mph in the manual yaris.

That sounds awfully low.

I've driven a lot of cars and have never seen a small 4 cylinder turn revs that low at 70 MPH.

My 2.0 liter Sentra SE-R turned 4,000 rom even @ 80 MPH.

My 5 speed Yaris is "responsive" at 40 MPH in 5th gear; it's got be be carrying some pretty heavy gearing.

Have someone with a tach VERIFY what it is.

[SailDesign]

Originally Posted by 427chev

That sounds awfully low.

Actually, it works out from the ratios at 3005 rpm.
At 40, it is 1720...

[427chev]

Originally Posted by SailDesign

Actually, it works out from the ratios at 3005 rpm. At least that's on a 2007

Yep, you guys are right on the money.

Check out this calculator. (Use the third calculator for manual transmissions.):

http://www.csgnetwork.com/multirpmcalc.html

Stock tire dia. (RE92s) is 23.9", 5th gear ratio is .82 and the final drive axle ratio is 3.72.

I'm surprised that this car is responsive as it is in 5th with that kind of gearing and such a small engine. Mine will easily pull 5th from 40 MPH with a bone stock engine and no power enhancing mods of any kind.