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Old 03-28-2009, 12:00 PM   #1
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It is a waste of time and money on a high compression NA engine like the Yaris has.

You would NOT want a centrifugal supercharger, that defeats the whole purpose of twin charging. YOu woudl want a roots or twin screw type supercharger.

Also, one will not "blow up" the other.
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Old 03-28-2009, 03:42 PM   #2
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It is a waste of time and money on a high compression NA engine like the Yaris has.
a waste of time and money to some people.

if i did it i would do it right. i would pick up a 1nz from a junkyard completely build the engine from top to bottom. swap in a 2zz transmission. custom fortified axels. properly tuned stand alone engine management
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Old 03-28-2009, 07:58 PM   #3
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a waste of time and money to some people.

if i did it i would do it right. i would pick up a 1nz from a junkyard completely build the engine from top to bottom. swap in a 2zz transmission. custom fortified axels. properly tuned stand alone engine management
Don't get me wrong, I totally want you to do this. However, this is no pocket change project. And if I remember correctly, you were the guy who had a payment plan for just the blitz kit with garm. Unless you hit the lottery recently, or you're raking in the money like garm, how long do you think this will take to actually happen?
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if i did it i see it taking me roughly 2 years, but thats me taking my time. i see no point in rushing it. the engine in it right now is running fine
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Old 03-28-2009, 07:32 PM   #5
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It is a waste of time and money on a high compression NA engine like the Yaris has.

You would NOT want a centrifugal supercharger, that defeats the whole purpose of twin charging. YOu woudl want a roots or twin screw type supercharger.

Also, one will not "blow up" the other.
I have wasted enough money on my echo to buy 6 or more of them... For some people it may seem like a waste but when you can keep up to a lambo in an echo the look on his face is priceless.

and you WOULD want a centrifugal supercharger since it is much more efficient then a roots or twin screw style. You don't need to feed the supercharger with the turbo or feed the turbo with the supercharger. they can both run to the same intercooler that has divided tanks on one end with a single outlet on the other end feeding your intake manifold.
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Old 03-29-2009, 03:14 AM   #6
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I have wasted enough money on my echo to buy 6 or more of them... For some people it may seem like a waste but when you can keep up to a lambo in an echo the look on his face is priceless.

and you WOULD want a centrifugal supercharger since it is much more efficient then a roots or twin screw style. You don't need to feed the supercharger with the turbo or feed the turbo with the supercharger. they can both run to the same intercooler that has divided tanks on one end with a single outlet on the other end feeding your intake manifold.
If you are going to run a centrifugal supercharger and a turbo you are defeating the entire purpose. An centrifugal supercharger is essentially a belt driven turbo cold side, and as such needs to spool just like a turbo, but is limited by engine speed. You would be better off running 2 turbos, or one large turbo. The whole point of twin charging is to eliminate turbo lag. A centrifugal supercharger has lag. Roots style and twin screw chargers do not.

It has been proven that generally a single turbo will make more power than a twin charger setup. The twin charger will have better driveability, and better response.

Also, you are not keeping up with a Lambo in Echo or Yaris. Maybe a Mustang.
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Also, you are not keeping up with a Lambo in Echo or Yaris. Maybe a Mustang.
Hahaha.. you obiously haven't seen my build before.... I was able beat a few nice cars including my bosses modified M3. A 335Xi twin turbo BMW and a few other just with my 4age swap. I am not saying i smoked then but i was in the lead.

Let alone my twin engine build... even just 500 awd hp in an echo would be killer.

If you think lambos are fast you must be smoking some good shit. because the base Lamborghini Murciélago only does the quarter mile in 12.6 seconds... any well built turbo'd civic can keep up to that.
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Old 03-29-2009, 01:18 PM   #8
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If you think lambos are fast you must be smoking some good shit. because the base Lamborghini Murciélago only does the quarter mile in 12.6 seconds... any well built turbo'd civic can keep up to that.
You are the one smoking the shit if that is what you think. Yes you can build a gutted turbo anything to beat one in a 1/4 mile. On the street you might beat it to 120 or so.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Lamborghini...ag-Racing.html

Sure the idiot that can't drive it ran a 12.6, but look at the trap speeds genius. If you think a 12.6 is a tru representation of what they run you are kidding yourself.

I have ran them before and assure you they are much faster than that. I've beaten Gallardos, I've bean one Murci, and lost to one.
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