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Tamago · 06-08-2009, 10:34 PM

the next person that uses the term "slap on" in the same sentence as "turbo" needs a permaban.

mikenacarato · 06-08-2009, 11:23 PM

spectacle needs a permaban..........we already have enough bs on the forum as is.

cali yaris · 06-09-2009, 01:29 AM

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but now seriously is the 1NZFE able to take a turbo without modifications without destroying it?

No one can answer that question with any certainty. I'm not sure how many different ways I can say that. I can only point at the real world data we have, me and Tamago who ran turbos on the 1.5L motor with no damage. Loss in longevity? Again, can't answer that either.

Maybe in 3-5 years, when a lot more people have tried and either succeeded or failed, the question can be answered with some data to back it up.

The Spectacle · 06-09-2009, 05:37 PM

Its a first.

mikenacarato · 06-09-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Spectacle

Its a first.

now like a 2nd or 3rd...

Tamago · 06-09-2009, 05:56 PM

bench racing = real-life, knuckle-skinning experience, didn't y'all know? that's why we can "slap on" turbos and coilovers....

PETERPOOP · 06-09-2009, 10:09 PM

lol @ the bashing on spectacle.

Tamago · 06-09-2009, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PETERPOOP

lol @ the bashing on spectacle.

you feel left out?

CDavis7M · 06-10-2009, 02:05 AM

I don't have any experience with a Yaris, let alone a turbo one. But, I do have a turbo supra.

Here are some of the basics that I know about Turbo cars. Please let me know if I am wrong though.
-A car with a Turbo stock will have an ECU that is set to retard timing at higher rpm / higher boost.
-Turbo cars have much lower engine compression and are better able to handle boost.
-NA cars try to achieve a Air/Fuel Ratio of about 14.7, probably richer than that at about 13-14 or less when at full throttle.
-A Turbo cars ECU is set to run at 11-12 AFR at full throttle. Running richer allows the gas to cool the piston and reduces the risk of detonation.
-Turbo cars usually have some or all of the rotating assembly forged.

So, basically, running a turbo without any modifications on an economy engine, you will detonate with AFRs around 14, even at 7psi. I hope someone before me set you guys straight but this thread looks like Honda Tech. It's just horrible.

Tamago · 06-10-2009, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CDavis7M

So, basically, running a turbo without any modifications on an economy engine, you will detonate with AFRs around 14, even at 7psi. I hope someone before me set you guys straight but this thread looks like Honda Tech. It's just horrible.

guessing you missed the part where we suggested bigger injectors to help with the "stock" AFR's ?

when the car goes into open loop mode, larger injectors will provide more than enough fuel to keep boost mode cool

CDavis7M · 06-10-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tamago

guessing you missed the part where we suggested bigger injectors to help with the "stock" AFR's ?

when the car goes into open loop mode, larger injectors will provide more than enough fuel to keep boost mode cool

This will work. But, obviously it's not the best idea. And considering the cost of a piggyback and a tune compared to the cost of a turbo, I don't see any reason to risk an engine to save a few bucks.

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

You've clearly missed quite a bit of this discussion, you haven't played with a 1.5L Toyota motor, and your tone of disrespect (post count: 4) for some pretty knowledgable tuners is the horrible part. /rant off

I did miss some of the discussion. And sorry for the disrespect. But, calling out someone based on post count is also immature. I would expect better from a vendor.

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Originally Posted by mikenacarato

a yaris motor is quite different than a turbo supra motor..correct me if im wrong though please.

That's what I was suggesting.

cali yaris · 06-10-2009, 10:39 AM

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I hope someone before me set you guys straight...It's just horrible.

You've clearly missed quite a bit of this discussion, you haven't played with a 1.5L Toyota motor, and your tone of disrespect (post count: 4) for some pretty knowledgable tuners is the horrible part. /rant off

Split · 06-10-2009, 02:56 PM

someone put one of these turbos on the yaris:
http://www.compturbo.com/products/in...&product=CT340
TO4E T3/T4 Hybrid turbocharger with a 40mm Comp wheel stage 1 turbine wheel .36 Non-Port T3 turbine housing.

The Triple Ball Bearing version is only $1600. Instant 250hp at low rpm would be nice!

mikenacarato · 06-10-2009, 03:00 PM

i think people forget that all cars are NOT the same.....a yaris motor is quite different than a turbo supra motor..correct me if im wrong though please.

mikenacarato · 06-10-2009, 05:05 PM

just curious.....do you have a yaris cdavis? if not...why are you here?

CDavis7M · 06-10-2009, 05:35 PM

yes

mikenacarato · 06-10-2009, 05:40 PM

well welcome aboard.

Nexus1155 · 06-10-2009, 05:45 PM

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http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18796

research is golden, if you were trying to bash him, ye lose all chance now... sorry mike lol

06-08-2009, 10:34 PM	#1
Tamago View User's Garage Drives: UZJ100 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Off Grid Posts: 4,917	the next person that uses the term "slap on" in the same sentence as "turbo" needs a permaban. __________________ Been a long time messing with cars..

06-09-2009, 05:37 PM	#4
The Spectacle View User's Garage Drives: 08 BSP LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 218	Its a first. __________________

06-09-2009, 05:56 PM	#6
Tamago View User's Garage Drives: UZJ100 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Off Grid Posts: 4,917	bench racing = real-life, knuckle-skinning experience, didn't y'all know? that's why we can "slap on" turbos and coilovers.... __________________ Been a long time messing with cars..

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mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	spectacle needs a permaban..........we already have enough bs on the forum as is.

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CDavis7M Drives: 1990 Supra Turbo Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 46	I don't have any experience with a Yaris, let alone a turbo one. But, I do have a turbo supra. Here are some of the basics that I know about Turbo cars. Please let me know if I am wrong though. -A car with a Turbo stock will have an ECU that is set to retard timing at higher rpm / higher boost. -Turbo cars have much lower engine compression and are better able to handle boost. -NA cars try to achieve a Air/Fuel Ratio of about 14.7, probably richer than that at about 13-14 or less when at full throttle. -A Turbo cars ECU is set to run at 11-12 AFR at full throttle. Running richer allows the gas to cool the piston and reduces the risk of detonation. -Turbo cars usually have some or all of the rotating assembly forged. So, basically, running a turbo without any modifications on an economy engine, you will detonate with AFRs around 14, even at 7psi. I hope someone before me set you guys straight but this thread looks like Honda Tech. It's just horrible.

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Split Drives: 2008 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmonton Posts: 393	someone put one of these turbos on the yaris: http://www.compturbo.com/products/in...&product=CT340 TO4E T3/T4 Hybrid turbocharger with a 40mm Comp wheel stage 1 turbine wheel .36 Non-Port T3 turbine housing. The Triple Ball Bearing version is only $1600. Instant 250hp at low rpm would be nice!

06-10-2009, 03:00 PM	#14
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	i think people forget that all cars are NOT the same.....a yaris motor is quite different than a turbo supra motor..correct me if im wrong though please.

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mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	just curious.....do you have a yaris cdavis? if not...why are you here?

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mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	well welcome aboard.