oil drain plug- gasket

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by bronsin

What happens if it opens when youre driving? (nevermind I know what happens!) Hard to improve on a ten cent bolt. (and its free!)

That's only a concern with the Fumoto

The Fram has no lever, it has the internal pressure seal that only gets activated when you screw on the drain hose during an oil change, plus it also has the redundant outer seal and screw on cap, and it's a lot smaller.

Most Fram SD p/n's @ amazon are less than $8.00, over $20.00 less than the Fumoto @ amazon

I believe ours is the SD-3 [M12x1.25], not a M14x1.50 as previously mentioned.

[CTScott]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

That's only a concern with the Fumoto

The Fram has no lever, it has the internal pressure seal that only gets activated when you screw on the drain hose during an oil change, plus it also has the redundant outer seal and screw on cap, and it's a lot smaller.

Most Fram SD p/n's @ amazon are less than $8.00, over $20.00 less than the Fumoto @ amazon

I believe ours is the SD-3 [M12x1.25], not a M14x1.50 as previously mentioned.

It is 12mm-1.25.

I put the Fumuto F-103 on my Yaris and my Xterra (same size one as the Yaris). I was very impressed with the quality and with how hard it would be for the valve to be accidentally opened. it has a ball valve, and on top of that it has a significant spring that you have to press the lever against to open the ball valve.

It's nice being able to drain the oil without getting a drop on your hands.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by CTScott

It is 12mm-1.25.

I put the Fumuto F-103 on my Yaris and my Xterra (same size one as the Yaris). I was very impressed with the quality and with how hard it would be for the valve to be accidentally opened. it has a ball valve, and on top of that it has a significant spring that you have to press the lever against to open the ball valve.

It's nice being able to drain the oil without getting a drop on your hands.

I'm thinking about getting something, probably the Fram, because I'll be doing UOAs on my next 2 oil changes and figured it'd be easier to get samples with a drain device.

The Fumoto lever doesn't scare me, but if it hangs a little lower than the pan I was afraid that a board or similar debris could hit the entire valve itself.

[CTScott]

Here's what mine looks like.

From the front (barely visible between the two bumps):
drain valve front.jpg


From the side (If you put a level across the bottom most point of the oil pan it sticks down about 1/2" below the bottom of the pan):
drain valve side.jpg

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by CTScott

Here's what mine looks like.

From the front (barely visible between the two bumps):
Attachment 29144


From the side (If you put a level across the bottom most point of the oil pan it sticks down about 1/2" below the bottom of the pan):
Attachment 29145

Hmm I gotta think hitting something on the freeway like a tire carcass is going to make your day a lot more interesting!

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Hmm I gotta think hitting something on the freeway like a tire carcass is going to make your day a lot more interesting!

Agreed. Looks like a big ol' bulls-eye to me.

I just ordered the Fram SD-3 [$12.89, shipped], I'll post up some pictures when I get it installed.

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Agreed. Looks like a big ol' bulls-eye to me.

I just ordered the Fram SD-3 [$12.89, shipped], I'll post up some pictures when I get it installed.

got a link to the exact unit?
If I do this.... it only makes sense for me to do it to both my yaris & the 00 subaru legacy the better half drives.

The fram would most likely be fine, and if I could get two shipped for under $30, that saves me enough to fill my tank up with gas.

$30 savings is significant... I doubt fram would sell a product that was bound to get them sued multiple times because it easily broke when it hit dibris, or randomly leaked.

[yaris-me]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

That's only a concern with the Fumoto

The Fram has no lever, it has the internal pressure seal that only gets activated when you screw on the drain hose during an oil change, plus it also has the redundant outer seal and screw on cap, and it's a lot smaller.

Most Fram SD p/n's @ amazon are less than $8.00, over $20.00 less than the Fumoto @ amazon

I believe ours is the SD-3 [M12x1.25], not a M14x1.50 as previously mentioned.

The valve can NOT accidentally open. You can open and close the valve to get samples. You can control a valve. You can not sample as easily with the Fram.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by yaris-me

The valve can NOT accidentally open. You can open and close the valve to get samples. You can control a valve. You can not sample as easily with the Fram.

Look above. The Fomoto is a much larger target, that's what I worry about, again, not too worried about the actual lever. Any large item like a board will knock that valve off, easily. I just worked on a Lexus that got its transmission dipstick cut in two, ruining the transmission, and it was hidden waaaay better than the exposed Fumoto valve. The Fram valve is a whole lot smaller target. And you can sample very easily with the Fram. Their drain hose threads on, so simply control how much you want to tighten, same as how much you want to pivot the Fumoto lever.

[yaris-me]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Look above. The Fomoto is a much larger target, that's what I worry about, again, not too worried about the actual lever. Any large item like a board will knock that valve off, easily. I just worked on a Lexus that got its transmission dipstick cut in two, ruining the transmission, and it was hidden waaaay better than the exposed Fumoto valve. The Fram valve is a whole lot smaller target. And you can sample very easily with the Fram. Their drain hose threads on, so simply control how much you want to tighten, same as how much you want to pivot the Fumoto lever.

Obviously you want a Fram. So why not, just buy it. You won't be happy otherwise.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by yaris-me

Obviously you want a Fram. So why not, just buy it. You won't be happy otherwise.

No, I want the one that will be least likely to cause me headaches and looks the least like a sore thumb...just sorry that Fram looks like the smarter choice for me [and I'm not the only one], and even worse that it's only $8.00 at amazon, but the Fomoto does have the much more exotic sounding name.