SCCA Classing Update - I WAS WRONG!!

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by ozmdd

Ok, this may be the biggest reversal in recent memory for me. All of my legal-ese experience let me down here, and Yaris-X is actually correct.

Here is the reply from the SCCA rules person I asked:

Hi, Michael,

From the 2009 Solo Rules, 12.4, Standard Part, 2nd sentence (page 55): “Port-installed options provided by the factory are considered to be the same as those installed on the factory production line.”

Basically, anything that can be installed before it gets to the dealer is considered to be a standard part.

Hope this helps.

- Doug
Doug Gill
SCCA Solo Competition Manager

This really makes the Yaris a serious competitor in HS. Now, what other stuff can you special order and get put-on at the port??

read the part in bold.

TRD rear sway bars are NOT provided by the factory. it's just a rebadged bar from Hotchkis or similar.

he's still wrong, and you're still right

[frownonfun]

Originally Posted by Tamago

read the part in bold.

TRD rear sway bars are NOT provided by the factory. it's just a rebadged bar from Hotchkis or similar.

he's still wrong, and you're still right

i see what your saying but is that common knowledge to most? would they know something by Toyota Racing Development was actually just another brand rebadged?

not trying to contradict or disagree with you... just wondering if SCCA naivete (or expertise?) is something to consider on this matter?

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by frownonfun

i see what your saying but is that common knowledge to most? would they know something by Toyota Racing Development was actually just another brand rebadged?

not trying to contradict or disagree with you... just wondering if SCCA naivete (or expertise?) is something to consider on this matter?

SCCA expertise is not the issue here. it's the fact that if you run a port installed (and not factory available) rear swaybar in H stock, you ARE CHEATING. now, if everyone in your class is ok with you cheating, then technically you're not. but the "port installed" loophole is not gonna cut it in this case.

sorry yaris-X

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by Tamago

read the part in bold.

TRD rear sway bars are NOT provided by the factory. it's just a rebadged bar from Hotchkis or similar.

he's still wrong, and you're still right

Doug is not wrong. It does not matter who the part is from, only that the factory spec'd it - and it is the part they spec'd.

There are a number of cars, both OE and Port built, that have come with "after market" items like Koni shocks, Torsen LSDs. The stock legal Mazdaspeed Protege is a Racing Beat parts bin car.

You don't actually think Toyota builds all the parts on the car?