$86.44 for oil change? I feel screwed

[supmet]

^^ when did we go from arguing an 86 dollar oil change to a 20 dollar oil change? You're losing a few dollars per oil change, not 50 or 60.

[YarisSedan]

Originally Posted by supmet

^^ when did we go from arguing an 86 dollar oil change to a 20 dollar oil change? You're losing a few dollars per oil change, not 50 or 60.

Just showing that there is no markup in oil either if you are doing a normal or synthetic



"Well this is what was done.. which I assume was standred but according to what you posted for $30 they change the filter and oil. Do they rotate the tires? I was charged $26 more for that."

If you really want to get down to it and break it down.....

Labor 33.84 - profit 33.84 (Keep in mind OP stated that he had his tires rotated too not just typical oil change) So subtract 26 if you want he was really billed only 7.84 for his oil change.
Parts 48.20 - depends on the oil. I pay 11 dollars a quart for amsoil from my local kragens just really depends on what oil they are using and quality of filter. Not really all that much markup here. Maybe 10 dollars i guess
Shop Material 1.35 - no profit here
Sales tax 3.05 - no profit here
Total 86.44

Okay if you add 33.84 plus 10 dollar profit on parts that 43.84. He paid the dealer 43.84 for 45 minutes worth of their time.

Honestly me personally trying to speak unbiased as possible. I would rather pay a shop 33.84 give them my oil and filter and have them rotate my tires for me, check and adjust my tire pressure, drain and refill my oil and clean up the mess and dispose of the oil and filter for me.

[blacksandiegovitz]

Originally Posted by YarisSedan

Just showing that there is no markup in oil either if you are doing a normal or synthetic



"Well this is what was done.. which I assume was standred but according to what you posted for $30 they change the filter and oil. Do they rotate the tires? I was charged $26 more for that."

If you really want to get down to it and break it down.....

Labor 33.84 - profit 33.84 (Keep in mind OP stated that he had his tires rotated too not just typical oil change) So subtract 26 if you want he was really billed only 7.84 for his oil change.
Parts 48.20 - depends on the oil. I pay 11 dollars a quart for amsoil from my local kragens just really depends on what oil they are using and quality of filter. Not really all that much markup here. Maybe 10 dollars i guess
Shop Material 1.35 - no profit here
Sales tax 3.05 - no profit here
Total 86.44

Okay if you add 33.84 plus 10 dollar profit on parts that 43.84. He paid a shop 43.84 for 45 minutes worth of their time.

Honestly me personally trying to speak unbiased as possible. I would rather pay a shop 33.84 give them my oil and filter and have them rotate my tires for me, check and adjust my tire pressure, drain and refill my oil and clean up the mess and dispose of the oil and filter for me.

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I really also think that most people are missing the part about if your yaris is still under warrenty you MUST have your car serviced by a reputable dealer/service center so you have a record of all the maintance done . I've installed every single part on my car , myself and have built a couple 4g63 and 7mgte longblocks up in the past so I know my way around a wrench . Now do you guys really think I enjoy having to pay for an oil change and having to wait while someone fondles my baby , Hell-no but its under warrenty so I gotta do what i gotta do . I'm sure the OP's car is still under warrenty too

[SilverGlow]

Originally Posted by blacksandiegovitz

^^+2
I really also think that most people are missing the part about if your yaris is still under warrenty you MUST have your car serviced by a reputable dealer/service center so you have a record of all the maintance done . I've installed every single part on my car , myself and have built a couple 4g63 and 7mgte longblocks up in the past so I know my way around a wrench . Now do you guys really think I enjoy having to pay for an oil change and having to wait while someone fondles my baby , Hell-no but its under warrenty so I gotta do what i gotta do . I'm sure the OP's car is still under warrenty too

MORE LIES!!! While in warranty YOU NEVER HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OIL CHANGED BY A REPUTABLE PLACE, NOR DEALERSHIP...WHY ARE YOU GUYS MISLEADING PEOPLE HERE?!?!?

[blacksandiegovitz]

Originally Posted by SilverGlow

MORE LIES!!! While in warranty YOU NEVER HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OIL CHANGED BY A REPUTABLE PLACE, NOR DEALERSHIP...WHY ARE YOU GUYS MISLEADING PEOPLE HERE?!?!?

Ok , well then have a good time trying to get your toyota dealer to back-up the warrenty when you have no ef'n service records on file

[SilverGlow]

Originally Posted by blacksandiegovitz

Ok , well then have a good time trying to get your toyota dealer to back-up the warrenty when you have no ef'n service records on file

I have never had a problem getting Toyota to back up warranty work.

Never. So "luck" is never needed.

Legislation protects consumers from car makers forcing them to maintain their vehicles ONLY at their dealerships.

You really are behind the times and need to educate yourself on how it really works. There is NO reason to get maintenence at a dealership nor even an independent garage...you can do it yourself, and that is good enough.

[YarisSedan]

Originally Posted by SilverGlow

MORE LIES!!! While in warranty YOU NEVER HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OIL CHANGED BY A REPUTABLE PLACE, NOR DEALERSHIP...WHY ARE YOU GUYS MISLEADING PEOPLE HERE?!?!?

The dealership may ask you for your oil change paperwork if something happens engine realated. Like a total engine loss that they may have to replace. They want to see your service records that you have changed your oil in a timely manner. Thats why invoices from a independent shop if you are not going to the dealership is important. Sure you can get away if you do your own oil changes but you have to keep very good records. Dates times and reciptes. You now have to actually prove your case. As far as they know you may have never changed your oil for 2 years and your engine went kaput from sludge and lack of oil pressure. Dealership is more inclined to help you out no questions asked if they punch in your license plate as you pull up and see a extensive service history with them. If you dont have any service history now they become defensive. Now if you have service records to back you up then they will have no choice but to honor warrenty.

If you have NO service records. Well they still may help you. But you are really at the mercy of the dealership. And no one really wants to be in that position. I think two words come to mind.... Bend Over

[jambo101]

behour $86 for a synthetic oil change at the dealer is a bit high but not out of the ball park,here in Canada $70 to $80 would be the norm. 4 liters of Mobil1 will set you back close to $40 at the local auto parts store plus a $10 oil filter from the dealer and its $50 just to do it yourself

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by blacksandiegovitz

^^+2
I really also think that most people are missing the part about if your yaris is still under warrenty you MUST have your car serviced by a reputable dealer/service center so you have a record of all the maintance done . I've installed every single part on my car , myself and have built a couple 4g63 and 7mgte longblocks up in the past so I know my way around a wrench . Now do you guys really think I enjoy having to pay for an oil change and having to wait while someone fondles my baby , Hell-no but its under warrenty so I gotta do what i gotta do . I'm sure the OP's car is still under warrenty too

No you don't. I had a 2005 Tacoma that I changed the oil on every 5000 miles. At 33,000 miles, the fuel pump went out. The dealer replaced it under warranty with no questions asked. Your local dealer must be misleading you or maybe you hit yourself in the head with that wrench that you know your way around.

[supmet]

Originally Posted by YarisSedan

I pay 11 dollars a quart for amsoil from my local kragens

Dude, honestly, if you can't argue the facts at hand I'm going to start ignoring your posts. We're not talking amsoil, and we're not talking 20 dollar changes. AND we're not talking about an independent shop who buys their shit from kragen.

[YarisSedan]

Originally Posted by supmet

Dude, honestly, if you can't argue the facts at hand I'm going to start ignoring your posts. We're not talking amsoil, and we're not talking 20 dollar changes. AND we're not talking about an independent shop who buys their shit from kragen.

Okay this is starting to turn into a flame war here so this will be the last post i will make on this thread. What i noticed on threads that start to go this route is people who respond and join in dont read the thread and reponses from start to finish and may only read the last 1 or 2 pages and then comment typing in all caps and start using curse words without knowing the whole story.

If you account the fact that he payed in addition to his oil change for a tire rotation which was 26 dollars. Otherwise he would have payed pretty much 60 dollars for just a synthetic oil change alone at the dealership. Which 60 dollars is not entirely unreasonable. Jiffy lube charges 79.95 for synthetic oil change using penzoil platinum for up to 5 quarts. I am not sure if they adjust the price down if a vehicle takes less oil.

I am not tryign to say you should go to the dealership just try to explain why they charge a higher labor rate.

The reason I am comparing it to a normal 20 dollar oil change is to show you the labor rate is the same as a synthetic oil change. They labor they charged the Origonal Post was about 7 dollars. the extra 26 dollars came into play when he decided to get a tire rotation.

So really the only question should be the price he payed for the oil. We cant say for certain what type of oil he got in his car when going to the dealer. Unless someone here works for toyota they can state the brand. Sure they may buy it in massive bulk and get a discount rate which gives them a greater margin of markup but in reality it is not that great. If they sell the synthetic for 11 bucks i dont realisticly think they payed 2 or 3 bucks. At a minumum its about 5 bucks. Unless its some generic brand synthetic. I have worked with a lot of venders and i know what the prices are out on the market. If you dont want to believe me you have the right to your opinion just like i have the right to my own.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by YarisSedan

If you account the fact that he payed in addition to his oil change for a tire rotation which was 26 dollars.

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I can rotate my tires in less than 7 minutes using 1 jack stand and the pos factory jack. And it will be free. The dealership has a lift. With 1 tech they could rotate in probably 2 minutes or less, with 2 techs less than a minute. So thats $26 for a minute or two of work. Thats about $1500 an hour!! But still you say thats not a profit? Your dealership must have a water park in it for the customers to use while getting their car serviced!