Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[TOLMACH]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

I should edit:

I need a good Microphone and a good RTA software.

I'm going to start learning more about RTA...

Do not rely on this sort of stuff too much. Your ears and your preferences are your primary instruments ))

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by TOLMACH

Do not rely on this sort of stuff too much. Your ears and your preferences are your primary instruments ))

Don't worry, most of my install is just about personal pleasure and just in case my ears are bad, everything is around them and how I like it.


Just to add, now that I have a huge library of SQ Music, I've been nailing down lots of issues I had, or thought I had. Specially in the 30Hz to 200Hz zone.


But still would like the graphic interpretation of what should I be hearing.

This is the never ending story... hey! I forgot... I really would like to try 2 subs up front!

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[sqcomp]

The ears are indeed the only instruments that matter...

...that being said, they can be tricked. Derick, if you're bent on buying an RTA, look for an Audio Control 3055, a Coustic 33 or spring for a term lab. The first two should come with microphones for relatively inexpensively compared to term lab.

The real use for an RTA is level matching over the entire 1/3rd octave range. Phasing would come after that once all levels are matched at the listening position. Once the levels are matched, you'll notice an instant improvement in stage accuracy, width and depth.

Why?

When the level is matched, the sound is reaching the mic at the same time. There's no speaker confusion that throws off the speaker's response to your ears.

We have an RTA at the shop...but it's a bit of a drive for you. :)

[derickveliz2]

I don't think I can afford a Audio Control 3055 or similar, too much money.

I was thinking on something like TruRTA and a $50 mic

How was your trip to W.D.C.?

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[sqcomp]

My trip to DC...overall, it was great.

The more solemn experience:

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

My trip to DC...overall, it was great.

The more solemn experience

Awesome, that's a beautiful place!

Thanks for the advice about Beaming!

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[derickveliz2]

Today's picture at home... after a 185 miles commute:



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[sqcomp]

What's the next step for you regarding the system? The dual sub attempt?

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

What's the next step for you regarding the system? The dual sub attempt?

Yes, I'm getting ready for that.

Just so I can say... I did it!

but I would like to do the RTA before the second sub

I also need to redo my a-pillars I don't like the way they came out last time.

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[derickveliz2]

See, I told you I got 3rd (Last) from only 3... J jj







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[sqcomp]

Steve Stern couldn't even spell Julian Ridi's name correctly...

*sigh*

I should send you my a pillars and my tweeter pods so you can play with them...

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Steve Stern couldn't even spell Julian Ridi's name correctly...

*sigh*

I should send you my a pillars and my tweeter pods so you can play with them...

Yeah, and I'm from Nasachusetts!

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[sqcomp]

Some might say I'm trolling the topic but what I point out validates the lack of professionalism that should be at the forefront of the sport if they want it to grow.

The lack of proper judging, the lack of timely scoring, the lack of proper event result reporting...

...and yes, I can and have done better hosting my own shows.

[derickveliz2]

Too quiet around here, Yaris is blasting! just went by 105,300 miles and still getting 42.2 MPG average.

You just can't believe what I'm after in the little Yaris, call me crazy but it's there I can hear the issue.

Sorry I've been very busy at work(s) but I'm still alive and 100% Yarisworld Enthusiast by Heart.

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[MyzticZ3r0]

Originally Posted by Denzel_m

I dunna how to make a new post lol but I hope someone will be able to help me. I have a 2007 Yaris sedan. I'm not happy with the stock speakers, I have a sub running off the stock HU but I keep hearing distorted bass coming from the speakers in the back and the doors.

I was thinking about changing the speakers and leaving the HU stock I wanna keep the look. What speakers would you recommend? I need them to run off the HU so they should still be loud but with no bass. I'm thinking something with low watt rating and resistance. I dunna

Thank you

Near the top of the forum page, before the thread titles, there's a button labeled "new topic."

[derickveliz2]

Ok, so what I came through takes my system to a much better stage, the issue that I'm trying to resolve it's an issue related to my Yaris and my System, so it probably won't apply to other installs. but here we go....


So I was looking for a "WOW" factor in my system, first I thought adding a second sub would do it, but not really if I wanted to keep with Sound Quality and not starting fall into SPL (sound pressure level) I still would like to try a 2nd woofer in the near future.

After attending the SQ competitions in NY, a guy who listened to my system said... "some tuning is need it" and I think he said the word "ques" or some thing like that..

For a better understanding he was referring to the female voice followed by a "ppsssst" at the end of some words from the song coming from the female voice, kind of like you could tell the location of the female voice on the stage but at the end it drags to the left or right up and/or down.

So after this conversation I was really challenged on how to take care of this. He said tuning and x-over points but I was sure that something else was going on!

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[derickveliz2]

So I found the what could be the "WOW" factor...

as mentioned above I found issues in my system that was or is not letting me have a good stage:

One day in my regular tuning session going through the frequencies and trying to center the image with the EQ I got stuck in a particular frequency... according to my Technic I play a Frequency into the Mids and Tweeters and with the Right & Left EQ I move up and down until I hear/feel the sound in the center of the stage (or at least where I feel it should be) but at some point...

I got stuck! it didn't matter how much I input I had on the EQ the noise was still hitting my LEFT ear no matter what! I started blocking the LEFT Tweeter with my hand thinking that this was the reason I was hearing the signal in my LEFT ear, but nothing...

By accident I moved my RIGHT hand up and down when I notice the signal fades away, "What's going on????" so I found out that the RIGHT Mid has a straight hit directly into the LEFT window and bounces back to my LEFT ear...

Later on I found the same issue with the LEFT Mid a straight path going between my legs and the bottom of the dashboard hitting the RIGHT window and then reflecting the signal to my Right ear.

I spoke with my brother who studies music in NY he understood the issue right away saying "First Reflection"!

I'll try to draw it later for better understanding!


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[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

So I found the what could be the "WOW" factor...

I'll try to draw it later for better understanding!


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Image 2:



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