Anyone working on tuning??

[Dragonacc]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Can you buy an MS3 brand new for 13k? Didn't think so.

MS3 = 23k... give me 10 grand to spend on a Yaris and I'll put it on the front page.

Re-read my comment, I said even considering the higher msrp. Meaning, you can't build a Yaris for $23,000 that will put down 230whp and for another $1000 put down 300whp.

And even if you manage to do it, how long will the motor last? Even with a fully built (forged) motor you won't see 100,000 miles, and you won't see the same level of drivability.

EDIT: Don't forget upgraded front suspension, bigger wheels, brakes, independent rear suspension, LSD, you'll need all those things too.

[Black Yaris]

Originally Posted by Dragonacc

Re-read my comment, I said even considering the higher msrp. Meaning, you can't build a Yaris for $23,000k that will put down 230whp and for another $1000 put down 300whp.

And even if you manage to do it, how long will the motor last? Even with a fully build (forged) motor you won't see 100,000 miles, and you won't see the same level of drivability.

EDIT: Don't forget upgraded front suspension, bigger wheels, brakes, independent rear suspension, LSD, you'll need all those things too.

don't underestimate the power of the homegrown tuner... we have connections to get great hook ups on parts, we have the tools and know how to install them our selves... so.... I bet you I can take my $13k Yaris, drivetrain swap it myself and tune the motor in my fucking garage for $10k, yes I am considdering all the custom parts,mounts and what ever bullshit I would have to fab up, but geuss what, I work at a machine shop, my brother works at a machine shop, and my step dad works at a machine shop... I am sure between the 3 of us I can get what I need for a very limited cost (Beer & material)

[Dragonacc]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

don't underestimate the power of the homegrown tuner... we have connections to get great hook ups on parts, we have the tools and know how to install them our selves... so.... I bet you I can take my $13k Yaris, drivetrain swap it myself and tune the motor in my fucking garage for $10k, yes I am considdering all the custom parts,mounts and what ever bullshit I would have to fab up, but geuss what, I work at a machine shop, my brother works at a machine shop, and my step dad works at a machine shop... I am sure between the 3 of us I can get what I need for a very limited cost (Beer & material)

You aren't an average example.

I just hate to see people throw large amounts of money into a platform that may ultimately be a disappointment.

Also, using the MS3 as an example again, you get to finance the cost of all the extra performance because it's built into the price of the car.

I'd hate to see someone's credit card bill if they bought a Yaris and tried to buy $10,000+ worth of parts to make it equal.

In the end I wouldn't criticize someone for spending that kind of money on their car, it's their money and their car, but if they asked my opinion before the fact I would sure as hell try and get them to reconsider.

(Using your example of an engine swap would cause problems with emissions for most people and could ruin the handling of the car depending on what they were swapping.)

[Nutzoids]

Part of it...For me anyway... Is the pride in knowing that it is something I DID!

Also...MODing my Yaris makes it Unique to my standards... and honestly... you can't put a price on that! Honestly...

There are people... who think like you Dragonacc... Just buy it and let someone else worry about fixing/building it... You have what I call the new generation of thinking... Why fix the toilet when I can call a plumber…

Plus Financing money SUX... MS3…23,000 sticker…after tax and tags and all the other dealer BS… you can’t get it for under 25,000!

My Yaris cost me $170 a month... with $2,000 Down… a MS3 with 2grand down will cost me $450 a month… do you know how much EXTRA money I have with such a low car payment... enough to do my own work on my dream car...

Don't get me wrong... I'm not saying your wrong, I'm also not saying I'm right... But web pages like this cater to and attract people who are just not satisfied with the norm...

And one day... When my Turbo Yaris pulls up next to a MS3 and I beat the living shit out of them...because my car weighs 1/2 of what there’s does... and I'm pushing 160hp/160lbs of torque... then we'll why the $20,000 total Yaris is better then that $25,000 total MS3!

Just my $0.02!