When Yaris shopping did you consider Corolla?>

[Pavel Olavich]

I can buy any Lexis cash. I think it is stupid to "invest" $$ in cars, and pay big $$ for gasoline. This is all stupid.

I wanted these things:

Low Gas costs.
High Milage.
The least amount of $$$ to spend for a Car.
Reliability, durability.

F--- looks. F--- what others think of my car. F--- that it is not made in the U. S.

The bottom line for me is to pay the least for a car, repairs, and gas.

I'd rather invest my hard earned $$ in Real-Estate, and other high yield investments. Real investments.

The Yaris allows all this for me.

What is really sad is that our society (American) have lost our ability for Delayed Gratification. You see this all across America, in most every Apartment Complexs; just cruise the parking lots there....these stupid renters are often driving $30,000, $40,000, and sometimes $50,000 cars...where in the hell are their priorities? They live like Rock Stars on a BS budget, and they tell themselves "I deserve it...I earned it"...what dillusion! Renters that live like that mortgage away their future, their retirement, expect their family/kids to share bedrooms, live like lower class people.

Well, I deserve a Yaris, and I am proud of it.

Those that buy cars for how they look, what others may think, what perceived class it places them in, or for posing reasons are all losers.

As for the Corolla, yea I considered it, but it was too expensive, not as good on MPG as well....buying it would mean less $$ for real investments.

[static808]

Originally Posted by Pavel Olavich

What is really sad is that our society (American) have lost our ability for Delayed Gratification. You see this all across America, in most every Apartment Complexs; just cruise the parking lots there....these stupid renters are often driving $30,000, $40,000, and sometimes $50,000 cars...where in the hell are their priorities? They live like Rock Stars on a BS budget, and they tell themselves "I deserve it...I earned it"...what dillusion! Renters that live like that mortgage away their future, their retirement, expect their family/kids to share bedrooms, live like lower class people.

hahaha, you must have driven by LA koreatown and Glendale!! if you wanna see a nice 7-series BMW, look no further than the garage of an apartment complex in those cities. i hope those people are sleeping in their cars, cuz those complexes are roach-infested shit holes. i know, i used to live in one of them! thanks to a decade of driving a bottom-of-the-line civic, we now live by the beach!

--B

ps: sorry, but we're WAAY off topic here!! i just couldnt help it..

[Pavel Olavich]

Originally Posted by static808

hahaha, you must have driven by LA koreatown and Glendale!! if you wanna see a nice 7-series BMW, look no further than the garage of an apartment complex in those cities. i hope those people are sleeping in their cars, cuz those complexes are roach-infested shit holes. i know, i used to live in one of them! thanks to a decade of driving a bottom-of-the-line civic, we now live by the beach!

--B

ps: sorry, but we're WAAY off topic here!! i just couldnt help it..

That's funny...but sad too...goes to show how degraded our American society is....glad to hear you were wise in the past...if you had put big $$ into an expensive car back then you might not be living at the beach today! lol

I'm 47 and single these days, and a few times I had dates with women that stopped seeing me because I didn't drive a "great car"...imagine that! I don't have regrets however....who cares what they or others think....better to laugh all the way to the bank, yea?

[Jem_hadar]

Originally Posted by Pavel Olavich

I can buy any Lexis cash. I think it is stupid to "invest" $$ in cars, and pay big $$ for gasoline. This is all stupid.

I wanted these things:

Low Gas costs.
High Milage.
The least amount of $$$ to spend for a Car.
Reliability, durability.

F--- looks. F--- what others think of my car. F--- that it is not made in the U. S.

The bottom line for me is to pay the least for a car, repairs, and gas.

I'd rather invest my hard earned $$ in Real-Estate, and other high yield investments. Real investments.

The Yaris allows all this for me.

What is really sad is that our society (American) have lost our ability for Delayed Gratification. You see this all across America, in most every Apartment Complexs; just cruise the parking lots there....these stupid renters are often driving $30,000, $40,000, and sometimes $50,000 cars...where in the hell are their priorities? They live like Rock Stars on a BS budget, and they tell themselves "I deserve it...I earned it"...what dillusion! Renters that live like that mortgage away their future, their retirement, expect their family/kids to share bedrooms, live like lower class people.

Well, I deserve a Yaris, and I am proud of it.

Those that buy cars for how they look, what others may think, what perceived class it places them in, or for posing reasons are all losers.

As for the Corolla, yea I considered it, but it was too expensive, not as good on MPG as well....buying it would mean less $$ for real investments.

The Corolla in Canada gets marginal better mileage than the Yaris. Both cars cost about the same, if you go CE or LE Yaris, or CE Corolla. Heck, I think the Yaris RS will pretty much cost around the same as a Corolla S or LE.

Not much price difference at all in Canada. Get more horse power out of a Corolla too, and has same MPG. Really, IMO, comes down to which you'd rather drive, a more 'ordinary/plain' Corolla with somewhat of an 'image' attached it it, or the more interesting, 'fresh' look of the Yaris. I'd be happy in both! Corolla has some nice small benefits which I like it for more than the Yaris. And vice versa. Love both vehicles.

As to the rest of your post/rant, though I agree that yea, a car is a brutal investment (vs. other investments like real-estate, etc), I dont agree with your assessment of these ppl.

So they're "stupid" bc they chose to value other things in like besides a 'quality investment' ?

There's a lot to be said about simply being happy and content in life. If a car makes you content (more so than a fine house, then good on you!) Be happy. Who the hell is buying a car bc they think its a good investment either? No one! Not fair to call these ppl stupid on this basis.

And yes paying a mortgage on a house/property you can eventually own is wiser in the sense that in the long-term you actually permanently own something and wont have to make payments later on, you have that income freed up for later in life... but prioritising your future isnt the only way to live you life. you can be perfectly content and happier now at a little sacrifice to future potential.

You can value today more than tomorrow in the long-term (and thats not to say ur living like shit in the long-term tomorrow), or you can chose to sacrifice now for the long-term tomorrow. Both are perfectly valid choices.

No denying that same ppl actually screw themselves out of a good long-term tomorrow buy over spending now on worthless things or trying to live much beyond their means, and end up in real hard, horrible situations, but thats not every or id say even most ppl that chose to enjoy a truly fantastic car for themselves.

You have different priorities in life. Great. Dont go around knocking other bc they dont confirm to what you deem 'smart' and a 'better' way to live.


I use myself as an example. I'm leasing my car. I know that I'm paying more in the long-run. I'm paying Toyota and costing myself over 5 years an additional $1,200 (did the factoring). Some will say "WOAH! WHAT A WASTE of 1,200$"
I beg to differ... that extra $100 odd dollars i have in my bank account ever month for the next 5 years is MORE than worth it to me at this point in my life. I value that 100$ a month extra now far more than the overall cost savings of $1,200 overall.
In 5 years the buyout on my Yaris will be peanuts and so much more inconsequential to me than that $100 is each moth presently. My earning potential will have doubled by then once I have my professional designation.

Everything needs to be put into perspective. Not all ppl values the same things equally, and that's isnt a bad thing or a wrong thing.

Jem

[Pavel Olavich]

Originally Posted by Jem_hadar

The Corolla in Canada gets marginal better mileage than the Yaris. Both cars cost about the same, if you go CE or LE Yaris, or CE Corolla. Heck, I think the Yaris RS will pretty much cost around the same as a Corolla S or LE.

Not much price difference at all in Canada. Get more horse power out of a Corolla too, and has same MPG. Really, IMO, comes down to which you'd rather drive, a more 'ordinary/plain' Corolla with somewhat of an 'image' attached it it, or the more interesting, 'fresh' look of the Yaris. I'd be happy in both! Corolla has some nice small benefits which I like it for more than the Yaris. And vice versa. Love both vehicles.

As to the rest of your post/rant, though I agree that yea, a car is a brutal investment (vs. other investments like real-estate, etc), I dont agree with your assessment of these ppl.

So they're "stupid" bc they chose to value other things in like besides a 'quality investment' ?

There's a lot to be said about simply being happy and content in life. If a car makes you content (more so than a fine house, then good on you!) Be happy. Who the hell is buying a car bc they think its a good investment either? No one! Not fair to call these ppl stupid on this basis.

And yes paying a mortgage on a house/property you can eventually own is wiser in the sense that in the long-term you actually permanently own something and wont have to make payments later on, you have that income freed up for later in life... but prioritising your future isnt the only way to live you life. you can be perfectly content and happier now at a little sacrifice to future potential.

You can value today more than tomorrow in the long-term (and thats not to say ur living like shit in the long-term tomorrow), or you can chose to sacrifice now for the long-term tomorrow. Both are perfectly valid choices.

No denying that same ppl actually screw themselves out of a good long-term tomorrow buy over spending now on worthless things or trying to live much beyond their means, and end up in real hard, horrible situations, but thats not every or id say even most ppl that chose to enjoy a truly fantastic car for themselves.

You have different priorities in life. Great. Dont go around knocking other bc they dont confirm to what you deem 'smart' and a 'better' way to live.


I use myself as an example. I'm leasing my car. I know that I'm paying more in the long-run. I'm paying Toyota and costing myself over 5 years an additional $1,200 (did the factoring). Some will say "WOAH! WHAT A WASTE of 1,200$"
I beg to differ... that extra $100 odd dollars i have in my bank account ever month for the next 5 years is MORE than worth it to me at this point in my life. I value that 100$ a month extra now far more than the overall cost savings of $1,200 overall.
In 5 years the buyout on my Yaris will be peanuts and so much more inconsequential to me than that $100 is each moth presently. My earning potential will have doubled by then once I have my professional designation.

Everything needs to be put into perspective. Not all ppl values the same things equally, and that's isnt a bad thing or a wrong thing.

Jem

Funny, when I was young I use to think like you. So did my friends. At middle age, they, and I have changed our thinking. What does that tell you?

Well, I hear what you're saying, and it seems that you're under 30 and/or have no children, and/or not married, so I can see how you have your very unwise opinions...but there's hope for you...as you age you will change your tune, as most of us have.

Using your logic, people should be "happy" when they cannot provide for themselves, or their children, or their future. Happy. It seems you use that word too losely, but that's cool.