tooter's manifold adventure... - Page 25 - Toyota Yaris Forums

Yoda · 08-02-2012, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooter

TA DA...

All welded up and ready to mount on the engine.

!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mazilla · 08-02-2012, 11:32 PM

saweeet!

When is the cutoff for the hp/tq estimates?

eTiMaGo · 08-03-2012, 12:04 AM

totally tubular, dude!

tooter · 08-03-2012, 12:41 AM

Right up until I post the dyno results. If anyone wants to change their guess, they can. Just copy the list of guesses, and repost your updated guess in this thread.

Just in case anyone wants to rethink their guess, keep in mind that everything on either side of the manifold is exactly the same... same intake... same throttle body... same engine... same exhaust... same ECU.

The differences of the tooter manifold as compared to the stock manifold are:

1. ~5% longer runners

2. ~23% larger diameter runners

3. very small plenum, only ~30% of stock manifold plenum volume

4. intake tube behind the throttle body empties into the exact middle of the plenum

5. all of the entrance ports of the runners are in direct alignment with the axis of the throttle body

Yoda · 08-03-2012, 01:13 AM

malibu +4 -6
Tooter +2 -3
Mazilla +1,000
Garm -5 -5
Anomaly +1 -3
Ljming -3 +3
BEEF +3 -2
Goldeenoh +5 -3
Goliath 0 0
tk-421 +4 -3
Yoda +4 +3
Jason -12 -18
packet +5 +3
Maitre +2 +4
Jeff -3HP -10TQ
Bluevitz-RS +4hp +6Tq
Scubaru Steve 0hp +10Tq
Flipper_1938 +6hp +4 ft lbs
Viperoni +2 -5

ljming99 · 08-03-2012, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooter

Right up until I post the dyno results. If anyone wants to change their guess, they can. Just copy the list of guesses, and repost your updated guess in this thread.

Just in case anyone wants to rethink their guess, keep in mind that everything on either side of the manifold is exactly the same... same intake... same throttle body... same engine... same exhaust... same ECU.

The differences of the tooter manifold as compared to the stock manifold are:

1. ~5% longer runners

2. ~23% larger diameter runners

3. very small plenum, only ~30% of stock manifold plenum volume

4. intake tube behind the throttle body empties into the exact middle of the plenum

5. all of the entrance ports of the runners are in direct alignment with the axis of the throttle body

Doesnt really matter if it failed in the performance department.

BLING BLING FTW

BEEF · 08-03-2012, 07:54 AM

that looks awesome

(is it on the car yet, lol)

tooter · 08-03-2012, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ljming99

Doesnt really matter if it failed in the performance department.

BLING BLING FTW

Performing worse is always a possibility.
But it definitely has +10 +10 bling.

I'm really curious how it will drive at low rpms with a combination of larger longer runners and almost no plenum.

tooter · 08-03-2012, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEEF

that looks awesome

(is it on the car yet, lol)

Not yet.

I have a full day of work today and we're entertaining this weekend, so it's not likely to get installed for a few days.

There's a straight silicone coupler arriving today so I can work on adapting the intake to fit in the shorter space. The larger longer manifold pushes the throttle body 2 3/4 inches farther to the right. Gonna be a really tight fit!

cali yaris · 08-03-2012, 11:36 AM

Quote:

If anyone wants to change their guess, they can.

So someone can review all the guesses, educate themselves from that data, and change their guess? Seems hardly fair, but it's your game. I know casinos don't allow it.

tooter · 08-03-2012, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

So someone can review all the guesses, educate themselves from that data, and change their guess? Seems hardly fair,

It would definitely be unfair if some people had an advantage that others did not have, but it's fair when everyone has exactly the same advantage to make their informed guess as good as possible. The measurements are inconclusive and just some rough parameters that infer a variety of results both positive and negative.

Quote:

but it's your game. I know casinos don't allow it.

...then it's good this isn't Vegas.

CTScott · 08-03-2012, 12:00 PM

Here's mine: -2 HP, +4 ft lbs

cali yaris · 08-03-2012, 12:11 PM

I'm saying the guesses themselves are informative; late guessers have a small advantage, and re-guessers have significant advantage in placing their guess to try to win.

Not that any of that matters.

It's an academic discussion only, and all in good fun.

Hint: I'm not changing my guess

xnamerxx · 08-03-2012, 12:11 PM

If your only revving to the stock rev limit im guessing -10hp -10tq and bonus if it goes into limp mode.

tooter · 08-03-2012, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xnamerxx

If your only revving to the stock rev limit im guessing -10hp -10tq and bonus if it goes into limp mode.

-10 -10 it is, name.

The engine is bone stock with no added electronic management so it only goes to the stock rev limit... and takes a really long time to get there!

Bluevitz-rs · 08-03-2012, 12:31 PM

Have you done a volume comparison with water yet?

eTiMaGo · 08-03-2012, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

I'm saying the guesses themselves are informative; late guessers have a small advantage, and re-guessers have significant advantage in placing their guess to try to win.

Not that any of that matters.

It's an academic discussion only, and all in good fun.

Hint: I'm not changing my guess

Garm seems to be in full-on Rain Man mode? ;)

tooter · 08-03-2012, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

Have you done a volume comparison with water yet?

No, not yet... but I will now that I have both manifolds back from the shop.

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08-03-2012, 12:41 AM	#436
tooter play every day Drives: 2012 Yaris L 2dr 5sp Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,962	Right up until I post the dyno results. If anyone wants to change their guess, they can. Just copy the list of guesses, and repost your updated guess in this thread. Just in case anyone wants to rethink their guess, keep in mind that everything on either side of the manifold is exactly the same... same intake... same throttle body... same engine... same exhaust... same ECU. The differences of the tooter manifold as compared to the stock manifold are: 1. ~5% longer runners 2. ~23% larger diameter runners 3. very small plenum, only ~30% of stock manifold plenum volume 4. intake tube behind the throttle body empties into the exact middle of the plenum 5. all of the entrance ports of the runners are in direct alignment with the axis of the throttle body Last edited by tooter; 08-03-2012 at 02:12 AM.

08-03-2012, 07:54 AM	#439
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08-03-2012, 12:00 PM	#444
CTScott ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 09 5dr LB, 2x 08 3dr LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA, CT Posts: 13,460	Here's mine: -2 HP, +4 ft lbs __________________

08-03-2012, 01:13 AM	#437
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08-03-2012, 12:11 PM	#445
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	I'm saying the guesses themselves are informative; late guessers have a small advantage, and re-guessers have significant advantage in placing their guess to try to win. Not that any of that matters. It's an academic discussion only, and all in good fun. Hint: I'm not changing my guess __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

08-03-2012, 12:11 PM	#446
xnamerxx 0-60 in slow Drives: light blue liftback Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: so cal Posts: 926	If your only revving to the stock rev limit im guessing -10hp -10tq and bonus if it goes into limp mode.

08-03-2012, 12:31 PM	#448
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