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Old 08-28-2012, 07:13 PM   #811
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No problem, Garm.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:01 PM   #812
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The mating surface of the TB is flat, just like the 1NZ. I've got one in the shed if you want pics for sketching/brainstorming.
Just one pic would be great, Cranky.
I want to know what they look like just to be sure that I'm ordering the right one.

The bore diameters are so close between the 1NZ FE and 1ZZ FE I may have the rest of the adaptors all machined 1ZZ sized so that the manifold will work for both throttle bodies.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:26 AM   #813
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Just one pic would be great, Cranky.
I want to know what they look like just to be sure that I'm ordering the right one.
I've got some homework to finish up this morning, but if I have time before class, I'll snap a few.
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The bore diameters are so close between the 1NZ FE and 1ZZ FE I may have the rest of the adaptors all machined 1ZZ sized so that the manifold will work for both throttle bodies.
I'm not sure what constitutes "close" here, but a solid step will cause some significant turbulence. I would honestly suggest making two different adapters, assuming you're not opposed to having additional inventory eating up shelf space.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:29 AM   #814
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It would be a reverse step (if you can even call it that) if the flange is 1zz and a smaller 1nz throttle is mounted on it, and it's after the the throttle. That's how our test car is set up.

I don't know if that's going to make much of a difference.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:14 PM   #815
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I've got some homework to finish up this morning, but if I have time before class, I'll snap a few.

I'm not sure what constitutes "close" here, but a solid step will cause some significant turbulence. I would honestly suggest making two different adapters, assuming you're not opposed to having additional inventory eating up shelf space.
Thanks for the good advice. I'll do that.
There won't be much inventory anyways.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:25 PM   #816
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Here's a pic of a 1ZZ TB from the manifold side. If you need/want a different angle or direct measurements, I can scare those up too. I bought one from fleaBay for $50 and ended up sacrificing it to the techno-god "Howzitwerk" to see if it could be disassembled, cleaned, and reassembled. Turns out the answer to that is a resounding NO.

Oh, and the .pdf is a measured drawing that I made of the basic dimensions. If the picture looks like it's mirrored from the drawing, it's because the right half of the drawing is the face of the manifold, not the TB.
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:40 PM   #817
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Tooter, we have a couple of 1ZZ throttle bodies available here if you want to pick one up.
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:58 PM   #818
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Tooter, we have a couple of 1ZZ throttle bodies available here if you want to pick one up.
Just to clarify, they're the -030 parts, correct?
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:00 PM   #819
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Tooter, we have a couple of 1ZZ throttle bodies available here if you want to pick one up.
how much do you sell them ?
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Just to clarify, they're the -030 parts, correct?
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how much do you sell them ?
You can't have one.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:08 PM   #821
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He has a dryyyyy sense of humor.... unless he meant it. LOL
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:25 PM   #823
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:15 PM   #825
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Tooter, we have a couple of 1ZZ throttle bodies available here if you want to pick one up.
Thanks, Jeff. Cranky's pic did the job. I just wanted to see if the bore was equidistant from the 4 studs so that the adaptor bore diameter can be adjusted accordingly from tapering down to 48mm to straight 51mm.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:21 PM   #826
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Here's a pic of a 1ZZ TB from the manifold side. If you need/want a different angle or direct measurements, I can scare those up too. I bought one from fleaBay for $50 and ended up sacrificing it to the techno-god "Howzitwerk" to see if it could be disassembled, cleaned, and reassembled. Turns out the answer to that is a resounding NO.

Oh, and the .pdf is a measured drawing that I made of the basic dimensions. If the picture looks like it's mirrored from the drawing, it's because the right half of the drawing is the face of the manifold, not the TB.
Hey, thanks Cranky!

It looks like a simple straightforward change to make the adaptor 51mm to match the 1zz throttle bore. That will make three possible tooter options:

1NZ 4 bolt 48mm
1ZZ 4 bolt 51mm
1ZZ 3 bolt 51mm
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:42 AM   #827
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interesting tread.... weird thing is today my coworker was throwing some car parts away.. one of it is 1zz celica intake manifold.. and i was looking at it.. and in my head.. look like it can fit the yaris... i told him hold on to it so i can do more research on it.. so I'm guessing it is possible..
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:25 AM   #828
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It won't fit. Its the same as the aluminum one, but plastic.
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