2015 Yaris

[DebbyM46227]

The front is ugly, plus I won't buy a Yaris if it comes from France. I love Japanese-made cars.

[Exiwolfman]

Originally Posted by DebbyM46227

The front is ugly, plus I won't buy a Yaris if it comes from France. I love Japanese-made cars.

and why not..? if build quality same and it saves money than why the hell not, plus it keeps the Yaris alive...

[IllusionX]

Originally Posted by DebbyM46227

The front is ugly, plus I won't buy a Yaris if it comes from France. I love Japanese-made cars.

It's not you that will stop Yaris sales in North America. Pretty sure many had the same comment when the corolla production have settled in Canada back in 1988..

[NYC-SE]

UG-LEE

Glad I bought a 2014 model.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by NYC-SE

UG-LEE

Glad I bought a 2014 model.

I wish Toyota would make an announcement (Now! ) about the 2015 model. If there is a 2015 USDM Yaris....and it has the same front end as the red one in this thread.....I'll want a 2014. There are only 48 2014 L 5-speed manuals left in the U.S. (with 20 of those being my preference of white or silver) and 7 2014 SE 5-speed manuals (with 3 of those white or silver).

[DebbyM46227]

Originally Posted by IllusionX

It's not you that will stop Yaris sales in North America. Pretty sure many had the same comment when the corolla production have settled in Canada back in 1988..

Whatever. My opinion is the French people don't have a good work ethic. Canadians are different, I have nothing against them. I'd take an American-made or Canadian-made Yaris over one coming from France.

[roxy1]

Originally Posted by DebbyM46227

Whatever. My opinion is the French people don't have a good work ethic. Canadians are different, I have nothing against them. I'd take an American-made or Canadian-made Yaris over one coming from France.

ummm, ok???....and of course there are no French people in Canada its not like 1/4 of Canadians are French Canadian and have French as their native tongue. maybe the Canadian government is breeding the poor work ethic out of the French Canadians, EH???

aside from your thoughts being a grossly ignorant ethnic stereotype, I will again point out that the manufacturing process is so highly automated and the quality controls for Toyota so well established from plant to plant that the products coming out of every plant are the same.

[DebbyM46227]

Originally Posted by roxy1

ummm, ok???....and of course there are no French people in Canada its not like 1/4 of Canadians are French Canadian and have French as their native tongue. maybe the Canadian government is breeding the poor work ethic out of the French Canadians, EH???

aside from your thoughts being a grossly ignorant ethnic stereotype, I will again point out that the manufacturing process is so highly automated and the quality controls for Toyota so well established from plant to plant that the products coming out of every plant are the same.

So go ahead and report me to the mods since you think I'm being "racist". I don't really care what you or anyone else thinks.

[roxy1]

Originally Posted by DebbyM46227

So go ahead and report me to the mods since you think I'm being "racist". I don't really care what you or anyone else thinks.

I wouldn't do that. I prefer to let peoples statements speak for themselves.

[tk-421]

Originally Posted by roxy1

aside from your thoughts being a grossly ignorant ethnic stereotype, I will again point out that the manufacturing process is so highly automated and the quality controls for Toyota so well established from plant to plant that the products coming out of every plant are the same.

[fnkngrv]

Originally Posted by roxy1

I will again point out that the manufacturing process is so highly automated and the quality controls for Toyota so well established from plant to plant that the products coming out of every plant are the same.

The biggest issue at this point is Quality Control. This is one of the reason why auto manufacturing in many countries is complete shit. My immediate family has been buying autos made in various countries for the close to four decades I have been alive. NONE.....NONE have been as reliable as the ones assembled in Japan. This of course kills me since I pride myself on supporting American made however post 1970 American autos don't have the same level they used to. There are of course some exceptions, but they are truly that...exceptions and not the rule. Don't even get me started on GM manufacturing the last 30 years.


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[roxy1]

Originally Posted by fnkngrv

The biggest issue at this point is Quality Control. This is one of the reason why auto manufacturing in many countries is complete shit. My immediate family has been buying autos made in various countries for the close to four decades I have been alive. NONE.....NONE have been as reliable as the ones assembled in Japan. This of course kills me since I pride myself on supporting American made however post 1970 American autos don't have the same level they used to. There are of course some exceptions, but they are truly that...exceptions and not the rule. Don't even get me started on GM manufacturing the last 30 years.


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ive been driving Japanese cars for over 3 decades. as the manufacturing has moved more and more out of japan, ive seen no discernable difference in quality. empirical data support Toyota/Hondas being as reliable and long lasting as ever even though very few are made in Japan.

the companies with great manufacturing philosophies and strict quality control over the last 40 years happen to be based in Japan. Economics have dictated over time that they start manufacturing cars elsewhere. it hasn't mattered. for example, the Corolla's North American production was moved to Cambridge, Ontario quite a long time ago and it has continued to rate as one of the most reliable, long lasting cars in the world.

it was never about where they were built, but about the Company philosophy behind building cars....just as it has been for the domestics for many years, but in a bad way. Chevy/Ford/Chrysler could have been building their cars anywhere in the world with the same ideology, quality controls, designs, etc...the vega, cavalier, escort, contour, k car, etc..they still would have been crap, even if they were built strictly in Japan.

Domestic cars have had dramatic improvements in quality over the last 10-15 years, and many are still built here. same location, different philosophy toward building cars.

[fnkngrv]

Originally Posted by roxy1

ive been driving Japanese cars for over 3 decades. as the manufacturing has moved more and more out of japan, ive seen no discernable difference in quality. empirical data support Toyota/Hondas being as reliable and long lasting as ever even though very few are made in Japan.

the companies with great manufacturing philosophies and strict quality control over the last 40 years happen to be based in Japan. Economics have dictated over time that they start manufacturing cars elsewhere. it hasn't mattered. for example, the Corolla's North American production was moved to Cambridge, Ontario quite a long time ago and it has continued to rate as one of the most reliable, long lasting cars in the world.

it was never about where they were built, but about the Company philosophy behind building cars....just as it has been for the domestics for many years, but in a bad way. Chevy/Ford/Chrysler could have been building their cars anywhere in the world with the same ideology, quality controls, designs, etc...the vega, cavalier, escort, contour, k car, etc..they still would have been crap, even if they were built strictly in Japan.

Domestic cars have had dramatic improvements in quality over the last 10-15 years, and many are still built here. same location, different philosophy toward building cars.

The bulk of the recalls for Toyota over the last 5 years from what I have seen have been with their line up of cars manufactured for the most part in other countries.

The last thing I will say on the subject is that the top reason why I bought my Yaris sedan back when the first launched for the 07 model year over a Corolla was specifically because it was built in Japan and not North America. I went with my gut and have had no regrets. Previous Corolla we owned were always built in Japan and lasted 300k miles with oil changes and spark plugs.

I personally have known several folks with Corolla built from 2000 on that had engine failures, transmission failures, braking system failures, etc just like other manufacturers. Seems to me to be a common denominator; a speculation could be that attitude of automation is the golden egg.

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[Exiwolfman]

Originally Posted by DebbyM46227

Whatever. My opinion is the French people don't have a good work ethic. Canadians are different, I have nothing against them. I'd take an American-made or Canadian-made Yaris over one coming from France.

wow ur so full of it ...its why the world is going to shit ! Not racist just dont like them...lmao who are u kidding .

[roxy1]

Originally Posted by Exiwolfman

wow ur so full of it ...its why the world is going to shit ! Not racist just dont like them...lmao who are u kidding .

and she misses the point that the Canadian built car she would prefer over the French built car was very likely assembled in part by French Canadians. the very definition of ignorance.

[fnkngrv]

Originally Posted by roxy1

and she misses the point that the Canadian built car she would prefer over the French built car was very likely assembled in part by French Canadians. the very definition of ignorance.

Are you serious?

That is like saying that an American born person who has German family roots that works for Ford in Dearborn MI is actually building the same quality as a BMW M Series in Germany itself just because they are of German descent.






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[roxy1]

Originally Posted by fnkngrv

Are you serious?

That is like saying that an American born person who has German family roots that works for Ford in Dearborn MI is actually building the same quality as a BMW M Series in Germany itself just because they are of German descent.






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someone who attribute a certain characteristics to Germans might believe that applies to anyone of German descent.

people of German descent living in Michigan is a bit different than French speaking French Canadians...for whom French is their first language and French is the official language in much of one of the largest cities in North America. They literally live their lives in a French community.

at any rate, the point was she attributed poor work ethic to a particular people...the French, with no basis in fact. pure ignorance. I would guess anyone with such a view would believe French speaking Canadians living in a large French community might also share that poor work ethic.

of course its ridiculous, but someone with such warped thinking may believe that.

If BMW was building cars in Detroit, controlling the manufacturing process and quality control, using the same automation as in Germany, then the cars would be the same ones coming out of Germany. it wouldn't matter of what descent the workers were. for many of their cars in the past two decades, that means they would be equally unreliable.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by DebbyM46227

The front is ugly, plus I won't buy a Yaris if it comes from France. I love Japanese-made cars.

Unfortunately, the choices in Japanese built Toyota's have become quite limited. Most Toyota's sold in the US are built here and in Canada. Financially, it just makes sense to build domestically for Toyota. Good for America, of course, but quality never quite matches Japanese built models.