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Old 07-26-2016, 03:16 AM   #1
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Converting to E85 on stock pistons, with your current mods, regardless of how much tuning you've done will yield no significant gains in power. You might have even lost power, just my $0.02 from a keyboard warrior, what do I know...
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Old 07-26-2016, 04:01 AM   #2
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Converting to E85 on stock pistons, with your current mods, regardless of how much tuning you've done will yield no significant gains in power. You might have even lost power, just my $0.02 from a keyboard warrior, what do I know...
converting to E85 on stock piston with my current mods won't gain anything? ..LOL 😂😂😂😂😂 you joking right..?
only converting to E85 doesnt do anything..they actually have E85 conversion just to change the fuel module with E85 plugs for stock injectors but changing to larger injector and slight timing advance on ecu do gain hp..
E85 tuning isnt same mod as putting on cold air intake and gaining 5hp with sound effects..lol 😂😂😂

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Old 07-26-2016, 11:52 PM   #3
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converting to E85 on stock piston with my current mods won't gain anything? ..LOL 😂😂😂😂😂 you joking right..?
only converting to E85 doesnt do anything..they actually have E85 conversion just to change the fuel module with E85 plugs for stock injectors but changing to larger injector and slight timing advance on ecu do gain hp..
E85 tuning isnt same mod as putting on cold air intake and gaining 5hp with sound effects..lol 😂😂😂

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I don't think you understand the concept behind E85. E85 produces less heat when burned, so therefore you need more fuel to make up for the loss of power, that is why you need injectors. With more fuel you need more air flow, which you don't have, a TB spacer and polished TB isn't increasing air flow, its reducing friction losses. Advancing timing to compensate for the power that was lost due to the switch of fueling doesn't necessarily mean that you are making more power. Unless you have dyno results to prove otherwise? An overlay of the stock setup and the current setup that you have. If you are producing more than 15WHP I'd be greatly surprised.
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Old 07-27-2016, 03:33 AM   #4
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I don't think you understand the concept behind E85. E85 produces less heat when burned, so therefore you need more fuel to make up for the loss of power, that is why you need injectors. With more fuel you need more air flow, which you don't have, a TB spacer and polished TB isn't increasing air flow, its reducing friction losses. Advancing timing to compensate for the power that was lost due to the switch of fueling doesn't necessarily mean that you are making more power. Unless you have dyno results to prove otherwise? An overlay of the stock setup and the current setup that you have. If you are producing more than 15WHP I'd be greatly surprised.
https://youtu.be/eiSbVvi0pDg
here is video of only E85 + timing advance only with dyno...lol...15hp? rofl..
keyboard racer these days, write like they actually have the mods in their yarus..😂😂😂😂😂

goto youtube and search "vios e85" or "yaris e85"..most of the videos will have standard e85 + timing advance tuning(basic)..

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Old 07-28-2016, 12:38 AM   #5
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https://youtu.be/eiSbVvi0pDg
here is video of only E85 + timing advance only with dyno...lol...15hp? rofl..
keyboard racer these days, write like they actually have the mods in their yarus..😂😂😂😂😂

goto youtube and search "vios e85" or "yaris e85"..most of the videos will have standard e85 + timing advance tuning(basic)..

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Is that a video of your car being tested? It's in Thai and I don't understand what they are saying, I guess I'd have to take your word for it saying that it is stock. Still 23hp measured at the hubs isn't power measured to the ground so you'll still have a higher reading, I wasn't far off from my 15hp guess. If you are looking for a fast car, the Yaris isn't it end of story.
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Old 07-28-2016, 02:52 AM   #6
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Is that a video of your car being tested? It's in Thai and I don't understand what they are saying, I guess I'd have to take your word for it saying that it is stock. Still 23hp measured at the hubs isn't power measured to the ground so you'll still have a higher reading, I wasn't far off from my 15hp guess. If you are looking for a fast car, the Yaris isn't it end of story.
its called fast forward through the video and look at the dyno charts...yeah 23hp from stock...rofl
put some photos of your car..bet you got some turbo whistler on your exhaust 😂😂😂😂

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Old 07-28-2016, 07:02 AM   #7
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its called fast forward through the video and look at the dyno charts...yeah 23hp from stock...rofl
put some photos of your car..bet you got some turbo whistler on your exhaust 😂😂😂😂

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I saw the dyno charts that is why I said 23hp measured at the hubs. Stock didn't come with a turbo, but that car appears to have a boost gauge??? Lol
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