Yaris 2009 5door front speakers replacement.

[ern-diz]

I wouldn't go so far as say you made a terrible mistake. I would just say that for a tic better sound, in addition to other features you don't have with the stock head unit, it would have been better to start with the head unit and then move to the speakers.

I went with a Pioneer, double-din touchscreen. It's the AVH-280BT model and sells for a couple hundred bucks, but there are many single-din options that would provide nice signal and power at a lower cost.

Yes, you can add an amp to increase the power going to your new speakers however, the head unit is the starting point of signal processing, so you're still not going to get as much out of those speakers as you would with a cleaner signal from a good aftermarket head unit to the amp and then to the speakers.

If I were you, since you've already purchased the speakers, I'd install them and then work toward getting a decent head unit next. You will notice a significant bump in sound quality, in addition to gaining a host of other cool features like Bluetooth connectivity, etc.

Search and lurk the In Car Entertainment + Electronics (audio / video / alarm) section. A lot of good info to be had there (and is where this post should have been created to get the most relevant help).

[miiser]

Originally Posted by ern-diz

I wouldn't go so far as say you made a terrible mistake. I would just say that for a tic better sound, in addition to other features you don't have with the stock head unit, it would have been better to start with the head unit and then move to the speakers.



I went with a Pioneer, double-din touchscreen. It's the AVH-280BT model and sells for a couple hundred bucks, but there are many single-din options that would provide nice signal and power at a lower cost.



Yes, you can add an amp to increase the power going to your new speakers however, the head unit is the starting point of signal processing, so you're still not going to get as much out of those speakers as you would with a cleaner signal from a good aftermarket head unit to the amp and then to the speakers.



If I were you, since you've already purchased the speakers, I'd install them and then work toward getting a decent head unit next. You will notice a significant bump in sound quality, in addition to gaining a host of other cool features like Bluetooth connectivity, etc.

Thank you for the reply first of all.
That's what I am going to do. I will install them and then I will start saving money for the headunit. I did some research in the past hour and I found some descent ones like the kenwood in the photo for less money.

But still I will need a new dash frame. So in the best situation I need about 200euros.
Plus the fact that I have steering wheel buttons. What about them? Do I need an adapter for them too?

That's why I said about the amplifier. It seems to me that it is a much cleaner and easier and cheaper job to do.
I can manage to put an amplifier for around 80 euros. And I really like to keep it stock-looking. But, what you said to me about the headunit, yeah it's better to change this first.

But at this moment I can afford an amplifier. Not a headunit. That's why i am thinking for it.


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[miiser]

Originally Posted by ern-diz

I wouldn't go so far as say you made a terrible mistake. I would just say that for a tic better sound, in addition to other features you don't have with the stock head unit, it would have been better to start with the head unit and then move to the speakers.



I went with a Pioneer, double-din touchscreen. It's the AVH-280BT model and sells for a couple hundred bucks, but there are many single-din options that would provide nice signal and power at a lower cost.



Yes, you can add an amp to increase the power going to your new speakers however, the head unit is the starting point of signal processing, so you're still not going to get as much out of those speakers as you would with a cleaner signal from a good aftermarket head unit to the amp and then to the speakers.



If I were you, since you've already purchased the speakers, I'd install them and then work toward getting a decent head unit next. You will notice a significant bump in sound quality, in addition to gaining a host of other cool features like Bluetooth connectivity, etc.

Ok that's what I am going to do.
I will plug my new speakers and I will save some money for the headunit.
I did some research and I fount a descent one value-of-money:


But even with this one I need at least 200euros to spent(cause then I will need a new frame to fit it, plus the wires etc) and also I have steering wheel buttons. So what about these? How they are going to work? Do I need an adapter for these too?

So thinking these things, if I can have right sound with a small amplifier, it will be a dream for me. Cause amplifier is cheaper to buy and give it to an expert to fit it, cleaner-stock job and I won't have to worry about the steering wheel buttons.
With the new headunit I have much more possibilities. I know. But it's way more expensive. And what really matters for me right now is to have a descent sound. So if the amplifier can make the same job (or close to) I will go for it. I can afford it right now.


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[miiser]

Originally Posted by ern-diz

I wouldn't go so far as say you made a terrible mistake. I would just say that for a tic better sound, in addition to other features you don't have with the stock head unit, it would have been better to start with the head unit and then move to the speakers.



I went with a Pioneer, double-din touchscreen. It's the AVH-280BT model and sells for a couple hundred bucks, but there are many single-din options that would provide nice signal and power at a lower cost.



Yes, you can add an amp to increase the power going to your new speakers however, the head unit is the starting point of signal processing, so you're still not going to get as much out of those speakers as you would with a cleaner signal from a good aftermarket head unit to the amp and then to the speakers.



If I were you, since you've already purchased the speakers, I'd install them and then work toward getting a decent head unit next. You will notice a significant bump in sound quality, in addition to gaining a host of other cool features like Bluetooth connectivity, etc.



Search and lurk the In Car Entertainment + Electronics (audio / video / alarm) section. A lot of good info to be had there (and is where this post should have been created to get the most relevant help).

Yes I did some research and I found some descent headunits like kenwood for about 120euros. But I will need frame too so I am going to spent like 200euros total. And I can't afford that these days.
But I can afford and amp if I can have a descent result without changing the headunit


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[ern-diz]

Originally Posted by miiser

Yes I did some research and I found some descent headunits like kenwood for about 120euros. But I will need frame too so I am going to spent like 200euros total. And I can't afford that these days.
But I can afford and amp if I can have a descent result without changing the headunit

Reading between the lines, what I'm hearing is that you can't really afford an amp either, because I'm not sure a sub $200 euro amp is going to be worth the investment. What amps are you looking at?

If you decide to go that route, try to find one with as high of an RMS power rating as possible. Peak power is not nearly as important.

[miiser]

Originally Posted by ern-diz

Reading between the lines, what I'm hearing is that you can't really afford an amp either, because I'm not sure a sub $200 euro amp is going to be worth the investment. What amps are you looking at?



If you decide to go that route, try to find one with as high of an RMS power rating as possible. Peak power is not nearly as important.

So I found these amps:
Boss audio riot r1004 400watt 2channel (with 100rms for each channel) ~~60euros

Boss audio riot r1002 200watt 2 channel
(With 50rms for each channel). ~~70euros

The speakers I bought have 30rms so both of them are ok for me.

And I found good reviews for both of them.
Ok they are not perfect or the best. I know. But they seem descent to me



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[ern-diz]

Originally Posted by miiser

So I found these amps:
Boss audio riot r1004 400watt 2channel (with 100rms for each channel) ~~60euros

Boss audio riot r1002 200watt 2 channel
(With 50rms for each channel). ~~70euros

The speakers I bought have 30rms so both of them are ok for me.

And I found good reviews for both of them.
Ok they are not perfect or the best. I know. But they seem descent to me

In my opinion, you should install the speakers and save the amp money for a head unit next.

[miiser]

Originally Posted by ern-diz

In my opinion, you should install the speakers and save the amp money for a head unit next.

Thank you for your answers.

I want to ask one more thing. I read somewhere that even if my rear doors have no wiring for speakers, there are ready wires in the panel under the front seat belts, that you can extent them into your door. (They call this waitings in my language) Is that true??


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[ern-diz]

Originally Posted by miiser

Thank you for your answers.

I want to ask one more thing. I read somewhere that even if my rear doors have no wiring for speakers, there are ready wires in the panel under the front seat belts, that you can extent them into your door. (They call this waitings in my language) Is that true??

This I'm not sure about. I know there are wires in place for certain options even when the car didn't come with the option from the factory, such as wiring for power side mirrors, but I don't remember reading about there being rear door speaker wires in place. That's not to say there isn't, I just don't know for sure.