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Old 02-23-2007, 12:50 AM   #1
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Thing is, I'm not wrong. And any time you've debated with me, you've been wrong. Keep up the trend.

Tell me, what am I wrong about, that hicks like you run 315 drag radials on 9" wide wheels and street tires up front. Safe huh? Tell you what, my BMW days were in a land where handling dynamics rein supreme. I'll take that vs a AWD Subaru or Mustang owner's views any day.
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There has been no debate, it is just you spreading misinformation and conjecture. I'm just more knowledgable than you.
I didn't know the arrogance and stupidity that most BMW owners exude extended to ex BMW owners as well. Thank you for that valuable lesson.

Please go back to your fantasy land where BMW handling was the pinnacle of your ignorant, uninformed, yuppie wet dream.

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Old 02-23-2007, 01:57 PM   #2
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There has been no debate, it is just you spreading misinformation and conjecture. I'm just more knowledgable than you.
I didn't know the arrogance and stupidity that most BMW owners exude extended to ex BMW owners as well. Thank you for that valuable lesson.

Please go back to your fantasy land where BMW handling was the pinnacle of your ignorant, uninformed, yuppie wet dream.
You know more than me? That's classic rustang boy. Keep telling yourself that, and the records I set in autocross wouldn't mean anything to you being a near 4000lb POS Ford owner. That car plain sucks, a stock used Z06 would rape you on any road course, let alone autocross.

Yuppie wet dream? The day you can tell me your family has owned in no particular order, a 2000 NSX-T with arc titanium exhaust that cost more than every mod you've made on that pos ford, Volk TE-37 forged wheels, etc, a E46 M3, 997 Carrera S, 3 E30 M3's, 2 E36 M3's over a dozen various P cars, and a Lotus Esprit TT V8. I have more seat time in exotic cars then you have getting your dick hard looking at pics. I'd L_O_V_E to prove to you how much more I know about cars then you do, but then you'd actually have to own a fucking functionable brain that can dicipher thought....which you, being a Rustang owner, don't have. Do me a big favor, and stop posting all together, we don't need 315 Nitto boys running on 9" wide wheels acting hard around here.

P.S.-Since you 'Merican owners know sooo much about correct tire sizes, answer this Einstein. Why the fuck does Porsche build the BEST track car in the 997 GT3RS, with ONLY 235's on 8.5" wheels and 305 rears on TWELVE inch wide wheels? What, you don't know genious? It's called contact patch on the road, and effective tread width, something you'd know nothing about.

In case you missed it, my FIRST POST in this thead says within 2 sentences the differences in tire widths between manufacturers. What you should've said earlier is "Your first post was spot on, but I got butt hurt by that domestic comment, so I became prickboy!" I got more, bring it.
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:13 AM   #3
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its odd cause im on the complete opposite on the spectrum from most of you, this is the first import ive owned. Everything else has been domestic and 'dude' not every guy driving a camaro or mustang has the rear jacked up and 12 wide weld rims telling you hes got the finest ride. I had an 84 z28 apparentlly the best handling sports car that year, even over the corvette and it ran 215 or 225 on 7.5 rims. But owners of these cars were more worried about how to hook up 400+hp and tire smoke. Those cars were also throw backs to the muscle car era and corner carving wasnt in the formula as it always has been with the euros so theres really no comparison, only whether you prefer the mullet or the leather pants.
Im curious why someone who obviously has a bmw shrine in the corner of the house has ditched the tried and true and bought a yaris?
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Old 02-23-2007, 01:49 PM   #4
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'dude' not every guy driving a camaro or mustang has the rear jacked up and 12 wide weld rims telling you hes got the finest ride.
I laughed out loud at the thought of those cars.

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Im curious why someone who obviously has a bmw shrine in the corner of the house has ditched the tried and true and bought a yaris?
Daily driver man, still have a Bimmer. So I can't have 2 different tastes? I get tired of cars quick, hence the 15 I've owend in the past 7 yrs. I move on a lot but paid cash for the Yaris, and don't ever plan on selling it, really. It should last 10+ yrs easy. Once I sell my old E30, I'm upgrading to a E46 M3.
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Old 02-23-2007, 06:55 PM   #5
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Dam i love reading posts you make. It makes my day....lol
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:33 PM   #6
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but if it goes to PM we have nothing to laugh about.

BTW new ot the forums but still laughing my ass off at this one.
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:43 PM   #7
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same here.
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:09 PM   #8
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Yeah man i love to see Nimble give peoples negative feedback.....It's fun.
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:24 PM   #9
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Yeah man i love to see Nimble give peoples negative feedback.....It's fun.
If you want the honest truth about me, here goes.

I'm an asshole only if I get disrespectful comments on topics I'm well aware of.....examples (tires, wheels, nutrition, exercise, etc) I don't go around claiming I know everything about forced induction or body kits do I? But when it comes to suspension, wheels, tires, you know the basics, yes I know a lot. If you guys knew how many car sites I am a active member on, it would freak you out, let's just say WELL over 10K posts between them all. And sure, that doesn't make you knowledgeable alone, but Ive been into cars my ENTIRE life. No, I haven't just "sat" in the Lotus, NSX, etc. My father used to let me take them for 50+ miles trips to cruise my college, lol, you should see the looks on people's faces when you go by at 8000rpm in a mid engine NSX.


Overall though, I'm a easy guy to get along with, as long as you aren't one of those kids that would be like; "Our 20' Bayliner (aka suckliner) goes 75 mph no problem. When I, drove our 22' Donzi with 502 mag personally to a GPS of 74. I don't BS, I don't fuck with people, I tell it like it is. You want to run 275's on a 8" wide wheel? Be my guest. Just don't go fucking telling everyone you're right, because you aren't. Period. End of story.

Way I see it, we need more people like me that stop all the fucking ricers from roaming the forums with their heads stuck up their asses. You know ending things like the following....

1-"Ricer math "Hey man, I got a intake (10hp), bb throttle body (7hp), catback exhaust (8hp), and a chip (12hp).....I GOT'S DA 37HP GAIN YO!!!!"

2-Ricer thoughs on body kits..."Hey yo dawg, I got's da winnnnggg on my Sentra, it makes it da staaabees in da turnzzzz"

3-"Those neon lights sure do beat wit da bazzz yo.....da bitchaz luv it"

4-"NAWWWWSSSS BABYYY" It's Nitrous Oxide numb nuts.

5-"Supras RRRUUULLLEEE!!!, shit your Z06 is slow, only 400rwhp, my SSSUUUPPPRRRAAA has 1000039348234rwhp, but runs a 13.2 at 158mph. Itz fas yo!"

That should cover some bases.

If I offended you, you're probably a ricer. Get help now before it's too late.
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:50 PM   #10
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I like nimble. I started talking to him in an arugement similar to this, I pmed him got to know him and he is pretty good guy, knowledgable to boot. All i have to say large orange if you want the fire to go out stop dumping fuel on it.

This is still some funny sh*t.
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Old 02-24-2007, 01:02 AM   #11
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Guys, the thing is, neither of you are really wrong or really right. As far as I understand there is no 1+1=2 exact answer to most things when we talk about cars. There's always a tradeoff somewhere, something that will work better in one aspect and worse in another. On the same rim, a wider tire should give you more grip, at the expense of sidewall flexing, while a narrower tire will not flex as much, giving more precise handling, even though the contact patch (and absolute grip) is relatively smaller. So, which actually ends up giving better handling? Which one can make you go around a curve at a higher speed? You can make all the educated guesses you want, base yourself on experience, but apart from trying out many different combinations and actually doing some extensive testing on a skidpad with a G sensor, who can say for sure? And you can't generalize either, something that works good on one car might not work as well on another, there are so many variables to keep in mind like the car's weight and weight distribution, the different suspension designs and settings, even the driver's skill and handling preference!

Heck you guys even agreed at one point that there is no absolute answer here. You're both very knowledgeable and have a lot more experience than many of us, and we welcome the sharing of this knowledge. But, always keep in mind that not everyone will agree with you, humans are by nature thick-headed and opinionated

Then it degenerated to name calling and "who's got a bigger ego". We don't need this here. So, please, guys, agree to disagree, keep it civil, keep it professional, and this place will be all the better for it. I don't want to have to close down this thread and remove all unnecessary posts.
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:08 PM   #12
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How pathetic.

A moderator should shut this thread down and delete posts. It will no longer yield anything useful.

Nimble, way to ruin another one. Calling another member a cocksucker? Dissing on another member's home country? Man this board really grew when you signed on, didn't it?
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How pathetic.

A moderator should shut this thread down and delete posts. It will no longer yield anything useful.

Nimble, way to ruin another one. Calling another member a cocksucker? Dissing on another member's home country? Man this board really grew when you signed on, didn't it?
And you are contributing how?

Read my 1st post, then grow up, then contribute, then read my avatar, then realize you aren't condoned.
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Old 02-26-2007, 04:18 PM   #14
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And you are contributing how?
You mean you aren't onto what happens behind the scenes here? Hm, wonder why.

Oh right, you're too damn cool.

Funny thing... recently I was doing some research and PMed Ashley with a question. Fast response, cordial, informative, realistic... didn't tell me what I wanted to hear, but told me what I needed to hear without being a dick about it. This is definitely more than I could expect from yourself.
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Old 02-26-2007, 05:21 PM   #15
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And you are contributing how?

Read my 1st post, then grow up, then contribute, then read my avatar, then realize you aren't condoned.

I think Charles has contributed plenty.
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I think Charles has contributed plenty.
Great story. Doens't pertain to this thread. Next...
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Old 02-26-2007, 09:38 PM   #17
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bah no matter what this thread will never get back on topic. People, learn what you can from what's been posted.
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Old 02-23-2007, 03:31 PM   #18
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If you guys (Nimble, largeorangefront) must continue to battle back and forth, take it to Private Messaging please...There are some of us on this forum who would like topics to stay on topic...

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