Struts vs coilovers

[Ben_]

Huh you are right I must have misread. This rulebook really gets to me sometimes. Do you have a suggested alignment? I have the bolts available on micro image and I'm sure nobody at the local events will disqualify me for it. I'm not going to be competing nationally

[ilikerice]

I would go with more camber.. like -2.5. If you are debating class, I would suggest going STF.. it is more fun with a decent budget.

I been running my Megan coil-overs for 3 years now, and they have done me very well, I had my car corner balanced also when I got them. I will say, I can no longer adjust the height. The threads have seized in 3 of them so the right height on mine is no longer adjustable, but is fine with me because I feel I have it dialed in where I wanted them. My shocks are not leaking...yet. Some have had issues with the Megans, I would suggest going with a better coil-over. I would love some K&W or Silks, but they are pretty pricey.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by Ben_

Huh you are right I must have misread. This rulebook really gets to me sometimes. Do you have a suggested alignment? I have the bolts available on micro image and I'm sure nobody at the local events will disqualify me for it. I'm not going to be competing nationally

Your either going to be legal or your not, your the one that has to sleep at night. There is no reason not to use the right bolts.

I would start at -3 (if the factory bolts will get there), with about 1/8" of toe out to start.

[Ben_]

Looking at getting these rims. Good idea?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/391047809336...S:1123&vxp=mtr

[7:34pm]

I wouldn't spend that much on oem wheels.

Since you're in the US you should have a look on tirerack, their house brand wheels, TRMotorsports, are decent for the money and don't look bad either; lots of autocross guys use them too.

[Ben_]

I've decided to stay in stock class, don't have the budget for stf. So have to use similar to OE rim size 15x5.5 et 45 +-1" diameter +-6mm offset. Trmotorsports sells a sweet 15x7 for $400 but it ain't stock legal. I guess I'll keep looking for a cheaper price on those mini wheels unless someone chimes in on another option

[ilikerice]

Just run a second set of steelies, you can get some for about $100 on craiglist. Throw some good tires on them and call it a day. Yaris isn't that competitive in HS, and if you are just getting into autocross, there is a large learning curve you will need to get past.

I think you got the right idea of staying in Street class. Learn your car and its limits. Your biggest investment will be tires. The best modification to any car is the driver. Over time you can save money and upgrade to better parts i.e. rims, swaybar, shocks.

[Ben_]

I spent all last year learning the car. I went to 26 auto x events and will be finishing the last 5th and 6th "winter cross" season at miller motorsports park in tooele. I spent my first season on 4" steelies with all seasons

I have already purchased the whiteline 22mm rsb and 1 set of MI camber bolts from another forum member yariscupcar. Going to try them out this weekend. Ive saved my money and its time to get more competitive parts for stock class

[Ben_]

I pulled the trigger on the wheels. Guy went down to 325 shipped. Look forward to them coming in the mail, running more camber, and getting some r compounds (205/50-15) once I get my uneven tread wear issue handled. I got about 1200 left to spend on entrance fees, tires, and misc parts ATM and will save more in the coming months

Thanks for all your advice guys. Its great to get some input from other drivers who own this awesome little car and I really appreciate your help and knowledge

[Bluevitz-rs]

I've run my Echo with Koni adjustables and stock springs. But I also have front and rear sway bar upgrades. The handling is amazing, almost better than lowered on my Eibach Pro Kit springs. Being able to dial in your damping forces makes the biggest difference in handling over lowering the ride height an inch.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by Ben_

I pulled the trigger on the wheels. Guy went down to 325 shipped. Look forward to them coming in the mail, running more camber, and getting some r compounds (205/50-15) once I get my uneven tread wear issue handled. I got about 1200 left to spend on entrance fees, tires, and misc parts ATM and will save more in the coming months

Thanks for all your advice guys. Its great to get some input from other drivers who own this awesome little car and I really appreciate your help and knowledge

Rs are not legal in HS. 200+ utqg only.

[7:34pm]

^this, thought they were going to drop it down to 140 but apparently it's still at 200 thread wear for now.

[CrankyOldMan]

Originally Posted by 7:34pm

^this, thought they were going to drop it down to 140 but apparently it's still at 200 thread wear for now.

They went with a stepped increase from 40 to 200: 2014 was 140 minimum, 2015 is 200 minimum. If you run less than 200, that puts you in Street Prep.

[ilikerice]

Unfortunately the Yaris, Fit and Fiesta are not on the list for Street Prepared class either. They go HS>STF>SMF... I was schooled in an thread before and had to look it up myselft and sure enough, the Yaris is not on the Street Prepared list

[ilikerice]

Wierd, the Mazda 2 and Mini Cooper (non-SC) are listed in the FSP. I don't get it.

[CrankyOldMan]

Strange that they wouldn't go into ESP. I know FSP is more for large displacement rear-wheel drive (Mustang et. al.) and that there isn't an HSP. I suppose it also depends on your region/club and how rigidly they follow the national rules, and what other cars you are competitive with.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by ilikerice

Unfortunately the Yaris, Fit and Fiesta are not on the list for Street Prepared class either. They go HS>STF>SMF... I was schooled in an thread before and had to look it up myselft and sure enough, the Yaris is not on the Street Prepared list

That simply means no one has asked for it to be classed - there are a lot of cars that are not classed at various levels. The SEB does not automatically add new models, if no one can be bothered to ask for it, there is no reason for the committee to waste the effort researching and classing it.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by CrankyOldMan

Strange that they wouldn't go into ESP. I know FSP is more for large displacement rear-wheel drive (Mustang et. al.) and that there isn't an HSP. I suppose it also depends on your region/club and how rigidly they follow the national rules, and what other cars you are competitive with.

The letters on the classification do not flow from one category to another, once you change categories it is essentially a clean slate.

ESP is the V8 rwd Pony cars, FSP is mostly small bore FWD.