Staggered???

[eTiMaGo]

on a similar note, doesn't Motegi wheels sell some sets of wheels that are meant to look staggered (i.e. the rear wheels have deeper lips, but are actually the same offset), I saw an ad for those in a magazine, sounds like an interesting concept!

[Black Yaris]

I like the comment above of the rear spacers, so that you can use the same wheels, and continue to rotate, and sell the wheels at a later time if you so wish

Hmm....
205/40R17 on the front with a +42
215/40R17 on the rear with a +42 and 10 mm spacer ?

any comments on the above setup?

[brickhardmeat]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

I like the comment above of the rear spacers, so that you can use the same wheels, and continue to rotate, and sell the wheels at a later time if you so wish

Hmm....
205/40R17 on the front with a +42
215/40R17 on the rear with a +42 and 10 mm spacer ?

any comments on the above setup?

did you decide on what suspension you are going with yet, I am thinking +30 in the rear actually pokes a bit, your gonna be close with +32, but you may want some poke and in the rear you may still be ok with that fender, I am contemplating a spacer myself, but the more I look at the fender like it is it grows on me, I almost ordered the 5mm and decided it wouldn't do much anyway

[Black Yaris]

I am going to tuck tire on the rear so I may go with the 5 mm spacer with the 215/40 then on the rear

suspension TBA

[brickhardmeat]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

I am going to tuck tire on the rear so I may go with the 5 mm spacer with the 215/40 then on the rear

suspension TBA

cool, I haven't really measured myself so you may be able to go more

[kimona]

This Vitz/Yaris is running 17x7's; FR ET42; RR ET35; 205/40/17's; Tein lowered.

[brickhardmeat]

wow I wouldn't want the rear pushed out any more than that! 5mm spacers it is. if I decide to push the rears out at all. Thanks for that picture that is a good shot. +30 would seriously poke and +25 would be throwing debris

[ya_RS]

Originally Posted by jookybanana

Honda Civic SIR wheels 15x6 +45
with Yokohama A032R 205/50/15



Work Emotion CR Kai 18x7.5 +42 front, +36 rear
with Falken FK-452 215/35/18

This was done very well (Kudo's to Jooky).... But is there a performance/functional downside to staggering??

[brickhardmeat]

would create some understeer however you will decrease some oversteer so it depends on what you like, to me it would be looks over functionality but this isn't extreme so you may not feel much difference at all


when I think really staggered I think of the rear wheels seriously poking from the car, this kind of staggering is just giving the car visual balance for the most part

off subject-I prefer the look of the car on 15's though myself

[Biggie™]

Originally Posted by ya_RS

But is there a performance/functional downside to staggering??

The rear wheels/tires of the Yaris are there to keep the ass end from dragging on the ground. The rear tires don't really need to be any wider than stock. Wider wheels/tires in the rear will cost you at the pump while slowing the car down. And I'd also be giving out those crusty looks to the homie thinking a nice 911 stagger looks good on a Yaris. My vote would be for proper offset and fitment for the front and rear while keeping the same size wheels and tire. The cheap way would be spacers, as has been stated previously, you would retain the ability to easily rotate the wheels/tires if utilizing a simple 5mm spacer. For those with bigger budgets, just get the staggered offsets wheels.

Now just an FYI... Performance wise, on a Yaris you would want to push the front wheels as far out as possible and have the widest tires and rims that will fit. You will want the rear track to be narrower than the front. This will help the car "rotate" when driving aggressively or on track.

[ya_RS]

Thanx... like i stated before... i dont plan on going staggered.... i just wanted to ask fo rthe sake of learning....


thanx to all those who responded

Originally Posted by Biggie™

The rear wheels/tires of the Yaris are there to keep the ass end from dragging on the ground. The rear tires don't really need to be any wider than stock. Wider wheels/tires in the rear will cost you at the pump while slowing the car down. And I'd also be giving out those crusty looks to the homie thinking a nice 911 stagger looks good on a Yaris. My vote would be for proper offset and fitment for the front and rear while keeping the same size wheels and tire. The cheap way would be spacers, as has been stated previously, you would retain the ability to easily rotate the wheels/tires if utilizing a simple 5mm spacer. For those with bigger budgets, just get the staggered offsets wheels.

Now just an FYI... Performance wise, on a Yaris you would want to push the front wheels as far out as possible and have the widest tires and rims that will fit. You will want the rear track to be narrower than the front. This will help the car "rotate" when driving aggressively or on track.

[kimona]

Originally Posted by Biggie™

The rear wheels/tires of the Yaris are there to keep the ass end from dragging on the ground. The rear tires don't really need to be any wider than stock. Wider wheels/tires in the rear will cost you at the pump while slowing the car down. And I'd also be giving out those crusty looks to the homie thinking a nice 911 stagger looks good on a Yaris. My vote would be for proper offset and fitment for the front and rear while keeping the same size wheels and tire. The cheap way would be spacers, as has been stated previously, you would retain the ability to easily rotate the wheels/tires if utilizing a simple 5mm spacer. For those with bigger budgets, just get the staggered offsets wheels.

Now just an FYI... Performance wise, on a Yaris you would want to push the front wheels as far out as possible and have the widest tires and rims that will fit. You will want the rear track to be narrower than the front. This will help the car "rotate" when driving aggressively or on track.

Some good points. But most here are just going for good looks, aren't even thinking about the track, and never drive aggressively enough to ever notice the difference made by some VERY minor differences between front and rear offsets, for example.

Japanese car buffs have been doing this kind of "staggering" on their street cars (rear wheel and front wheel drive) for years... purely for the right look.

Having lived in Japan (and Taiwan) for over 11 years, I thought I would introduce the concept to this forum. I called it "staggering", but maybe I used the wrong terminology in translation.

The staggering we have been discussing is not the typical staggering that's done on a BMW here, for instance. Maybe we should be calling it something other than staggering so people don't get the wrong idea and see it as something that only the "ignorant" would do to a Yaris.

[Biggie™]

"Staggered Offset" <---

[ya_RS]

well im thinkin' 16 CE28's come in 16x7 in offsets +25, +33, +42, +48 and 4 x 100 bolt pattern


16x7 ET + 33 front and 16x7 ET +42 rear on a 1.25 inch drop

or

since its not to low just got with 16x7 ET +42 all around

i know Largeorangefront's running Konig Heliums 16x7 ET 40 they look nice and he's dropped a lot lower

[kimona]

Originally Posted by ya_RS

well im thinkin' 16 CE28's come in 16x7 in offsets +25, +33, +42, +48 and 4 x 100 bolt pattern


16x7 ET + 33 front and 16x7 ET +42 rear on a 1.25 inch drop

or

since its not to low just got with 16x7 ET +42 all around

i know Largeorangefront's running Konig Heliums 16x7 ET 40 they look nice and he's dropped a lot lower

Looks like you've got a few options:

1. ET42 all 'round would be fine.

2. ET42's and 5-7mm hubcentric spacers in the rear.

3. FR, ET42; RR, ET33.

[ya_RS]

with my car not being as low...

205/50/16

or

205/50/195

cause i was thinkin 195 like Cali_yaris

Originally Posted by cali yaris

ok, here you go, the new one, then the one that rubbed.
Seems like that bit of change in the sidewall did the trick:


195/50/16 Kumho ECSTA RSX:


205/50/16 Falken 512

[kimona]

Originally Posted by ya_RS

with my car not being as low...

205/50/16

or

205/50/195

cause i was thinkin 195 like Cali_yaris

If I recall, cali yaris is running 16x7, ET38's all 'round with 195/50/16's.

Initially, he had a rubbing problem running 205/50's, but solved it by switching to the 195/50's. I'm guessing it wasn't a height issue, but a width issue that caused the rubbing. Check this out with him.

If you plan to run ET42's, you should be fine with 205's, provided you haven't really dumped your car.

[ya_RS]

here she is... not to low 30 MM which is 1.25 inches