2008 Yaris sedan ‘S’ sound deadening project.

[centrysis]

I also pulled new wiring through that boot in the front door. My wire puller didnt want to go through until i dipped it into a tube of lithium grease. Then it went no problem.

[Herbicidal]

Originally Posted by centrysis

I also pulled new wiring through that boot in the front door. My wire puller didnt want to go through until i dipped it into a tube of lithium grease. Then it went no problem.

Yeah, trying to pull it through the rubber boot was tough with no lube. OK, not going there...

On another note, I completed the deadening on the front passenger door and the right rear passenger door, just one more to go!!!! Pics are still on the camera.

And ya'll may have seen my post about needing another amp for a subwoofer. I'm this close to pulling the trigger on a mono Eclipse amp, Alpine Type R 10" sub and a box for the sub. THAT should round out the system nicely!

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Make sure that the amp is pushing no less than 500 watts. My Alpine M450 is underpowering my Type R (only 400 watts). What kind of box are you getting? If you want a sealed box, I'll sell you mine as I want a vented/ported box now.

[sqcomp]

Be careful with the vented enclosure. I've seen a lot of people kill woofers with less power on a vented application. With with all due respect to taln and his love for vented enclosures, he is a small minority of people who can control themselves with the voltage potentiometer.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Really? hmmm, so if the Type R (10") is rated at 500 watts, and the ported box that I'm looking at is the max volume rating for it, would that cause any problems?

[Herbicidal]

From my other thread about asking whether I needed another amp to power a woofer, here is what I'm looking at now based upon recommendations by Alien Mantis. I would run the Eclipse XA1200 from the pre-outs on my current Eclipse amp. He also suggested setting the amp for 2 ohms:

Eclipse XA1200600W Max, XA Series Class D Monoblock Car Amplifier (XA-1200) for $129 at Sonic.
Product Features:XA Series Class D Monoblock Car Amplifier with ICE Technology
RMS Power Rating:
4 ohms: 350 watts x 1 chan.
2 ohms: 500 watts x 1 chan.
Max power output: 600 watts
MOSFET switching power supply
ICEpower class D design
Wired remote bass level control included
LED power indicators
Bass Boost (0-8 dB at 50 Hz)
Bass boost frequency selection (32-64 Hz)
Mono channel operation
Protection temperature (90 C)
Heavy duty aluminum alloy heatsink
RCA level inputs
Screw terminals
Variable low-pass filter (40-200 Hz, Linkwitz Riley 18 dB/octave)
Subsonic Filter (18 dB at 20 Hz)
CEA-2006 compliant amplifier
Frequency response: 20-20,000 Hz
Input sensitivity: 1.2V-8V
Damping Factor: 90
Dimensions: 10-1/4"L x 10-1/8"W x 2-3/8"H
4-gauge power and ground wiring is required for installation.




Alpine SWR-1042D (TYPE R)10" Dual 4 ohm Type-R Subwoofer for $99:


Sonic Sub Box: 1SV10 (BLACK CARPET)Single 10" Vented MDF Enclosure for $29.99:

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Really? hmmm, so if the Type R (10") is rated at 500 watts, and the ported box that I'm looking at is the max volume rating for it, would that cause any problems?

probably not, as long as you keep with the Alpine reccomendations it should be fine... Companies make recommendations so that customers won't be blowing subs left and right....

If you stray from those recommendations however you may start to run into mechanical limitations of the moving parts... if you start hearing a slapping noise (like metal on metal or a hammer) at all you need to turn it down ASAP. i'm not sure if you'd head the former slap the back plate first, or if the spider would start to tear first.

be nice to the sub, listen for distortion, distortion is your best warning that your sub is running out of steam.

[Herbicidal]

I have reached another milestone!!! All four doors are now sound deadened!!!! Woohoo!!! Pic's are still on the camera, I'll download and post them up later. I used up all my RAAMmat, but I have a ton of Ensolite leftover, so next I will lay the foam on top of the RAAMmat in the trunk area in preparation for whatever subwoofer I end up with. Waay back at the begining, I only did the RAAMmat in the trunk, not knowing how much Ensolite I was going to use for the doors and under the rear seat. I ended up buying more Ensolite, so now I have PLENTY to do the trunk.

[swidd]

Uh, I'll be driving the Type R 10" 1042D with 300W at, I believe, 2ohms, from the Alpine PDX-5, in a sealed 0.7cubic box. While I don't worry about SPL, could this hurt the sub?

[derickveliz2]

Looking good!

It's nice to see a project like this grow and been done!

D.

[Herbicidal]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Looking good!

It's nice to see a project like this grow and been done!

D.

Thanks Derick! Well, almost done. Still need to do the trunk area with the Ensolite and decide on the amp and subwoofer. But I'm darn close!

[Herbicidal]

After completing the front passenger door, I was starting to run out of RAAMmat. I had only six 15" squares left, so I divided them up amongst the rear doors. I wasn't able to cover them as fully as the front doors, but since they don't have speakers, I wasn't as concerned. I do have plenty of the sound deadening Ensolite foam, so I put that on as thick as I dared. Too thick and the door panels would not fit back on correctly. All four doors are now "dead". You can rap on the outside and it's just a 'thud' vs a hollow sound. Since I have quite a bit of the Ensolite sound deadening foam, I'm going to go back to the trunk area and line it with the Ensolite. Right now it's just covered in the RAAMmat. Then I'll need to try the decibel meter again and see what it reads. To my ears, it is quieter inside and not nearly as much road and exhaust noise makes it's way into the cabin. The stereo sounds better than ever with the new front Kicker speakers and tweeters, plus the new Alpine Type R's in the rear. Now to decide on another amp and subwoofer.

Here's the rest of the pictures from this weekends efforts:

Getting started on the left rear passenger door.


Close up of the RAAMmat on the inside of the door panel.


Left rear passenger door. RAAMmat stuck to the inside of the door.


Plastic signs trimmed to fit and covering up the large holes in the door.


Left rear passenger door with RAAMmat in various places. I was just about out of it and to be selective on where I placed it.


Left rear passenger is done!


I added some Ensolite to the inside of the door panel for good measure. It's the black material.


Starting on the right front passenger door. The plastic weather piece is already stripped off and I've placed RAAMmat inside the door on the inner panel.


I had to buy some more plastic signs to fill the rather large holes in the door before I could lay down the RAAMmat on this side of the door panel. Figuring out what size they needed to be.


Signs all in place held by small sheet metal screws. Now I can lay the RAAMmat onto of everything and seal them up.


RAAMmat covering everything! Next is the Ensolite.


Right front passenger door is done! Tweeter mounted in the plastic panel near the mirror. New Kicker speaker mounted in the door along with the crossover.


Getting started on the right rear passenger door.


More inexpensive plastic signs to cover the holes with. Then I put the RAAMmat and Ensolite in layers on the door.


Right rear passenger door is done!

[Herbicidal]

As mentioned in my 'do I need another amp?' thread, I have ordered the Eclipse mono channel amp, Alpine Type R 10" subwoofer and an enclosure. Now I need to pick up some 4 gauge wire (power and ground), another fuse block, firewall grommet and a few other odds and ends. Now I'm motivated to get the trunk lined with Ensolite to provide a nice snug home for the new subwoofer. I'm so glad to be done with the doors!!!!

OK, I thought the 'Danger High Voltage' signs in the right front passenger door was funny, even if they will never be seen again! Even my daughter laughed!

Did I mention I'm glad to be done with the doors???

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Herbicidal

Did I mention I'm glad to be done with the doors???

Something I really like about the doors after deadening is (and just for key-less entry) that when you lock / unlock your car with the remote, you can barely hear the noise of the system, standing next to your car...

give it a try!.

[centrysis]

In my hatchback, facing towards the rear is the best.

[Herbicidal]

So I guess that is bass-ackwards! Sorry, that was pretty bad.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Still gonna do that dB reading after your speakers and sub are broken in?

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Still gonna do that dB reading after your speakers and sub are broken in?

Hi Kaotic, I'm sure herb can do that too, but the dB reading was to measure the noise level in the cabin before and after deadening with out music playing.


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D.