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custom Lftback · 11-09-2010, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax

Your car's safety systems worked as they were designed to. Airbags, seat belts and other safety devices don't prevent all injuries from occurring, they minimize them. Other factor come into play and your husband's injuries could have resulted from any number of reasons. Maybe next time do a little more research on the topic before you post slanderous accusations.

There are numerous threads on here concerning Yaris that have been in bad accidents, and in no cases were the safety features of the car found to malfunction. I don't know what your agenda is but if you think you're going to convince anyone on here that there is a serious fault with the safety system in our cars, you are wasting your time.

+1 'nuff said

SailDesign · 11-10-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mckulley1

If you purchase a vehicle with safety devices, then those safety devices should work properly.

<snip wishing harm to others>

I did not realize it was such a privilege to drive a Yaris that I should be "just happy" to be alive. I figured it also involved getting what you pay for!!!

I thought it was your husband who got hit, not you.

redglare45 · 11-10-2010, 12:44 PM

I was waiting for your replies PK...thank you. Keep them coming...LMAO!!!

Killchain · 11-10-2010, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckulley1

If you purchase a vehicle with safety devices, then those safety devices should work properly.

If this is your attitudes then I hope each of you get into an accident and your air bags do not deploy. Then you can tell me how you feel about a safety device that does not properly operate!

I did not realize it was such a privilege to drive a Yaris that I should be "just happy" to be alive. I figured it also involved getting what you pay for!!!

matthewai · 11-09-2010, 06:43 PM

answer: be more aware when driving a car that is significantly smaller than most other cars on the road you gotta be able to skill some shit out there make moves dip out stuff like that

Kaotic Lazagna · 11-09-2010, 07:03 PM

All I'm going to post:

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...eployment.html

But I'm glad that he walked away without serious injuries.

scape · 11-11-2010, 10:42 AM

having been in a frontal collision in my 2007 yaris 3dr hatchback, I can say without a doubt that the airbag deploying did not slow my body from forward motion. when it hit me it hit my face and a bit of my neck.
many times airbags can be dangerous and painful, thankfully my experience was not. Toyota, as most car companies do, go through a hundreds of hours of testing and retesting of safety equipment just so you have the least amount of injuries possible during a crash.
the airbag's main purpose, as said in an earlier reply, is to prevent the head from snapping around and slamming into things.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbag read the first sentence, or if you will that whole first paragraph.
the seatbelt is the main slowing force of the body, and the guy driving that car should be happy he is alive from a frontal collision, and without a broken neck.

2009BBPliftback · 11-11-2010, 12:33 PM

I work in an emergency room and airbags will mess you up for sure.. It's not a big fluffy pillow that magically appears to make things all better.

Kal-El · 11-11-2010, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2009BBPliftback

I work in an emergency room and airbags will mess you up for sure.. It's not a big fluffy pillow that magically appears to make things all better.

LOL.

Yeah, think of it more like a boxer punching you in the face at full force (with a glove). That's why smaller people can be killed if they sit too close.

Vioz · 11-11-2010, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2009BBPliftback

I work in an emergency room and airbags will mess you up for sure.. It's not a big fluffy pillow that magically appears to make things all better.

that would be awesome and when you hit the big fluffy pillow it squeeks

Kaotic Lazagna · 11-09-2010, 07:09 PM

Another reading on airbags:

http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/a...s03/page3.html

frownonfun · 11-09-2010, 07:23 PM

seems like some people are expecting this to happen when the airbag comes out... they really aren't all that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnyhkBU1yaw

bobselectric · 11-09-2010, 07:44 PM

First off, I'm glad your husband is alive, and in the grand scheme of things, was fortunate in that he wasn't more seriously injured- but I think you are flaming on Toyota, and in particular, the Yaris a bit too much. First off, this isn't 1972. Cars today are made with more lightweight materials than in previous years. Even in a minor collision, the damage sometimes looks horrific. Hey, I hit a deer at 30 mph in my 07 hatch, causing 6000 in damage and the deer walked away! Second, the cars today are engineered better than in previous years. Looking at the pics in your powerpoint, the car did what it was supposed to do- the passenger compartment was relatively undamaged, compared to the front end. The force of the collision was deflected away from the cockpit, the crumple zones crumpled, and the car gave its life to protect your husband. You didn't mention how fast he was going, how fast the other driver was going, or whether he or the other driver was turning at the time. These all matter. Third, are you a motion engineer, a collision specialist, an electrical engineer, or a physicist? Do you know more about air bag development, sensors, or deployment than design engineers? Do you honestly think, that if you were driving a comparable car made by a different manufacturer, (a Fiesta, an Accent, an Aveo, a Cube, a Fit, a Versa, etc.) that there would have been less damage, or the airbags might have deployed, and what would you base that conclusion on?
Ok, I own a Yaris- it's fun to drive, sporty, economical- a nice little car. Do i have any illusions about what would happen in a collision? No- I know, that in all likelihood, the car would be totalled. Do I have faith in the engineers and designers, that they would create this car to keep me as safe as possible? Yes, this is not a Yugo your husband was driving. If you don't feel safe in the car, get a bigger one- not that you should feel much safer because of the size. The way you come across, you should look for a '74 Caddy Eldorado (aircraft carrier)- you might not be able to afford the gas, but you should feel "safe".

BTW, was your husband wearing a seatbelt? If so, that might account for the broken ribs and the fracture of the spine

BailOut · 11-09-2010, 09:09 PM

From the description of the accident and the injuries that were sustained it sounds like more of a lateral collision than a purely frontal one. This would be a great explanation for why the airbags didn't deploy. The injuries mentioned are also not the kind that a frontal airbag deployment would have done anything to help.

And I think Toyota called it right when they said the bumper had been removed and the front sawed at. The cut is much straighter than what one would expect from anything involving a collision that didn't involve manufacturing machinery.

I sympathize with the victim and am glad he's alright, and fully understand that any collision is not a fun event. Yet I feel you are grasping at straws, though to what end I cannot tell.

Bluevitz-rs · 11-09-2010, 09:18 PM

Well, for one, that was not a front end (head on type) collision from the pictures. Seeing how both frame rails are bent to the passenger's side and the bumper beam is ripped off. The hood isn't crushed in, and the radiator isn't folded around the engine.

An airbag sensor is nothing more than a DECELERATION sensor (or acceleration in a negative direction for those that know VECTORS). So getting hit from the side won't deploy the airbags, wether you traveling in a forward direction or not.

You could be sitting motionless at a stoplight and get hit from the front head on and you airbags will deploy if there is sufficient negative acceleration.

I'll bet you didn't know there's also pre-tentioners in the seat belts that pull some slack out of the belt as the airbags deploy.

It's all part of the SRS (Supplementary Restraint System).

Vioz · 11-09-2010, 09:58 PM

Theres something wrong with my air bags, my sensor has been on for weeks, i haven't had it checked out yet but i should just in case they do not deploy when needed to if anything happens. I haven't done anything in that area at all either, just one day driving on the highway I randomly saw the light just go on, no bad weather, no pothole I hit or nothing at all it just randomly went on.

Bluevitz-rs · 11-09-2010, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vioz

Theres something wrong with my air bags, my sensor has been on for weeks, i haven't had it checked out yet but i should just in case they do not deploy when needed to if anything happens. I haven't done anything in that area at all either, just one day driving on the highway I randomly saw the light just go on, no bad weather, no pothole I hit or nothing at all it just randomly went on.

Well, in your case the entire SRS system won't be functioning. It could be any number of things. Including the passenger occupancy detector.

krusty · 11-09-2010, 10:02 PM

Well I'm glad to see that any injuries that came from this accident are not life threatening and that the Yaris held up well in the accident. I was going to say more on this subject but it would seem that everything I was going to say has been covered already so no need to repeat anything. lol

11-09-2010, 07:23 PM	#12
frownonfun View User's Garage Drives: 09 Yaris HB, 08 SR5 Tundra Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: RGV, Texas Posts: 1,086	seems like some people are expecting this to happen when the airbag comes out... they really aren't all that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnyhkBU1yaw __________________ I crush you like tiny clown car, because you are clown, yes?

11-09-2010, 09:09 PM	#14
BailOut Steals terrorist's lunch View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Reno, Nevada, USA Posts: 1,299	From the description of the accident and the injuries that were sustained it sounds like more of a lateral collision than a purely frontal one. This would be a great explanation for why the airbags didn't deploy. The injuries mentioned are also not the kind that a frontal airbag deployment would have done anything to help. And I think Toyota called it right when they said the bumper had been removed and the front sawed at. The cut is much straighter than what one would expect from anything involving a collision that didn't involve manufacturing machinery. I sympathize with the victim and am glad he's alright, and fully understand that any collision is not a fun event. Yet I feel you are grasping at straws, though to what end I cannot tell. __________________ - Brian Share the Road I often carry 2 carpool passengers and mountain bikes or snowboards/skis over a 4,500 foot elevation difference. Click the graphic above to see my detailed mileage logs.

11-09-2010, 09:58 PM	#16
Vioz Drives: 2008 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 227	Theres something wrong with my air bags, my sensor has been on for weeks, i haven't had it checked out yet but i should just in case they do not deploy when needed to if anything happens. I haven't done anything in that area at all either, just one day driving on the highway I randomly saw the light just go on, no bad weather, no pothole I hit or nothing at all it just randomly went on. __________________ a.k.a. "Aothachos"

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redglare45 View User's Garage Drives: 07 Sedan - 5 Speed Manual Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pomona / Pasadena, California Posts: 337	I was waiting for your replies PK...thank you. Keep them coming...LMAO!!!

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matthewai Drives: it is kinda stock Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: united states Posts: 1,258	answer: be more aware when driving a car that is significantly smaller than most other cars on the road you gotta be able to skill some shit out there make moves dip out stuff like that

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Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	All I'm going to post: http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...eployment.html But I'm glad that he walked away without serious injuries.

11-11-2010, 10:42 AM	#7
scape View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Beaufort, South Carolina Posts: 388	having been in a frontal collision in my 2007 yaris 3dr hatchback, I can say without a doubt that the airbag deploying did not slow my body from forward motion. when it hit me it hit my face and a bit of my neck. many times airbags can be dangerous and painful, thankfully my experience was not. Toyota, as most car companies do, go through a hundreds of hours of testing and retesting of safety equipment just so you have the least amount of injuries possible during a crash. the airbag's main purpose, as said in an earlier reply, is to prevent the head from snapping around and slamming into things. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbag read the first sentence, or if you will that whole first paragraph. the seatbelt is the main slowing force of the body, and the guy driving that car should be happy he is alive from a frontal collision, and without a broken neck.

11-11-2010, 12:33 PM	#8
2009BBPliftback Drives: 2009 Yaris LB in Blazing blue Join Date: May 2009 Location: Western PA (Franklin) Posts: 237	I work in an emergency room and airbags will mess you up for sure.. It's not a big fluffy pillow that magically appears to make things all better.

11-09-2010, 07:09 PM	#11
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	Another reading on airbags: http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/a...s03/page3.html

11-09-2010, 07:44 PM	#13
bobselectric Kickin' Yaris Drives: 07 Yaris liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: west harrison, ny Posts: 523	First off, I'm glad your husband is alive, and in the grand scheme of things, was fortunate in that he wasn't more seriously injured- but I think you are flaming on Toyota, and in particular, the Yaris a bit too much. First off, this isn't 1972. Cars today are made with more lightweight materials than in previous years. Even in a minor collision, the damage sometimes looks horrific. Hey, I hit a deer at 30 mph in my 07 hatch, causing 6000 in damage and the deer walked away! Second, the cars today are engineered better than in previous years. Looking at the pics in your powerpoint, the car did what it was supposed to do- the passenger compartment was relatively undamaged, compared to the front end. The force of the collision was deflected away from the cockpit, the crumple zones crumpled, and the car gave its life to protect your husband. You didn't mention how fast he was going, how fast the other driver was going, or whether he or the other driver was turning at the time. These all matter. Third, are you a motion engineer, a collision specialist, an electrical engineer, or a physicist? Do you know more about air bag development, sensors, or deployment than design engineers? Do you honestly think, that if you were driving a comparable car made by a different manufacturer, (a Fiesta, an Accent, an Aveo, a Cube, a Fit, a Versa, etc.) that there would have been less damage, or the airbags might have deployed, and what would you base that conclusion on? Ok, I own a Yaris- it's fun to drive, sporty, economical- a nice little car. Do i have any illusions about what would happen in a collision? No- I know, that in all likelihood, the car would be totalled. Do I have faith in the engineers and designers, that they would create this car to keep me as safe as possible? Yes, this is not a Yugo your husband was driving. If you don't feel safe in the car, get a bigger one- not that you should feel much safer because of the size. The way you come across, you should look for a '74 Caddy Eldorado (aircraft carrier)- you might not be able to afford the gas, but you should feel "safe". BTW, was your husband wearing a seatbelt? If so, that might account for the broken ribs and the fracture of the spine

11-09-2010, 09:18 PM	#15
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	Well, for one, that was not a front end (head on type) collision from the pictures. Seeing how both frame rails are bent to the passenger's side and the bumper beam is ripped off. The hood isn't crushed in, and the radiator isn't folded around the engine. An airbag sensor is nothing more than a DECELERATION sensor (or acceleration in a negative direction for those that know VECTORS). So getting hit from the side won't deploy the airbags, wether you traveling in a forward direction or not. You could be sitting motionless at a stoplight and get hit from the front head on and you airbags will deploy if there is sufficient negative acceleration. I'll bet you didn't know there's also pre-tentioners in the seat belts that pull some slack out of the belt as the airbags deploy. It's all part of the SRS (Supplementary Restraint System).

11-09-2010, 10:02 PM	#18
krusty Drives: 2010 Yaris ce Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Calgary Ab Posts: 71	Well I'm glad to see that any injuries that came from this accident are not life threatening and that the Yaris held up well in the accident. I was going to say more on this subject but it would seem that everything I was going to say has been covered already so no need to repeat anything. lol