tooter's manifold adventure... - Page 41 - Toyota Yaris Forums

packetrace · 08-23-2012, 06:39 PM

not so bad man!!!I want that HP hahaha

xnamerxx · 08-23-2012, 06:55 PM

I wouldn't call the manifold a failure till we see the dyno, just because the power output is low on a stock engine doesn't mean it won't work wonders on a non stock application.

Golddeenoh · 08-23-2012, 07:09 PM

I'm with xnamerxx, Turbo set up will benefit the most, especially for systems that are going beyond the 20 or so psi (I think that is the number i remember reading) that the plastic box limits it's self to. either way still a cool product.

can we get a re post of the guesses to see how close everyone was. I don't even remember what i had put.

4/20 NEVER FORGET · 08-23-2012, 07:21 PM

Good job on seeing that project through. It was a lot of fun to watch.

Next you should swap the TB to a Corolla throttle body :)

packetrace · 08-23-2012, 08:28 PM

would you mine doing an other dyno run..without the 90 degree....and so just the velocity stack....it wont hurt the car for just a dyno run :P or maybe but a net around it

WeeYari · 08-23-2012, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by packetrace

would you mine doing an other dyno run..without the 90 degree....and so just the velocity stack....

He probably would...if you paid for it

packetrace · 08-23-2012, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeeYari

He probably would...if you paid for it

lol no

thats why I asked would you mind to....

Flipper_1938 · 08-23-2012, 09:15 PM

I still applaud you for getting it out of your head and onto the car

justjesus · 08-23-2012, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

^ I'm calling your boss.

is THAT why i got a stack of work to do now?!?!?!

Tooter: thanks for trying this out man.

Garm: prototype? huh? I don't want to thread jack, so can you link me any links. Just not sausage links!!!!

Viperoni · 08-23-2012, 10:04 PM

Good effort, too bad it didn't make more power. A mad props for going beginning to end on it :)

anomoly40 · 08-23-2012, 10:07 PM

So I win? I got hp right and was off 2 torques.

tooter · 08-23-2012, 10:29 PM

Here's a comparative chart of the best of the basline runs and the best of the tooter runs...

tooter · 08-23-2012, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

What, only +1hp/-1tq... What about all of the glowing reviews from your butt dyno.

It's ok... I can handle a little ridicule, Jason.

Remember that the dyno runs are at wide open throttle and I don't normally drive at wide open throttle. I just drive like a regular transportation driver. And at under partial throttle conditions and low rpms the tooter manifold does perform great. In fact that was one of the things I was most concerned about, whether it would be driveable under normal everyday conditions.

I still need a few more fillups with the tooter to get an accurate comparison to the baseline gas mileage average.

Jason@SportsCar · 08-23-2012, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooter

It's ok... I can handle a little ridicule, Jason.

Remember that the dyno runs are at wide open throttle and I don't normally drive at wide open throttle. I just drive like a regular transportation driver. And at under partial throttle conditions and low rpms the tooter manifold does perform great. In fact that was one of the things I was most concerned about, whether it would be driveable under normal everyday conditions.

I still need a few more fillups with the tooter to get an accurate comparison to the baseline gas mileage average. :smile

Either your butt dyno is way out of wack, or I am looking at the wrong trace on the dyno, everything I see indicates a loss of power under 5300rpm. The way I see it low end power, and thus driveability has gotten worse. But it looks pretty.

malibuguy · 08-23-2012, 11:13 PM

Damn bittersweet ending...thanks for putting the effort out there to find out.

I wonder if could aggressive tuning n/a could make gains along with a larger tb?

malibuguy · 08-23-2012, 11:14 PM

Actually...some of that low end loss could be due to the supershort intake

I wonder a long intake into the fender well could make magic happen? I know you have flooding issues so thats a no go for you

tooter · 08-23-2012, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

Either your butt dyno is way out of wack, or I am looking at the wrong trace on the dyno, everything I see indicates a loss of power under 5300rpm. The way I see it low end power, and thus driveability has gotten worse. But it looks pretty.

Well, that's why I did comparative dyno runs, because they accurately show the difference. Under the partial throttle conditions of normal driving the difference isn't noticeable. If your gas pedal is to the floorboard all the time you're driving then you could notice the difference.

tooter · 08-23-2012, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malibuguy

Actually...some of that low end loss could be due to the supershort intake

I wonder a long intake into the fender well could make magic happen? I know you have flooding issues so thats a no go for you

I've been thinking about that too, malibu...

That intake is as physically short as possible to fit the filter. I might try a longer cold air intake just to see what happens. I can always take it off during the wet season. I'm not done experimenting yet.

Harry, at the HK Motorsports Dyno Shop in Van Nuys said that he'd open his place on a Sunday for a $70 Dyno Day if there are at least 5 cars to run. I'm going to post this in the California section just to see if anyone is interested.

08-23-2012, 06:39 PM	#721
packetrace Drives: Yaris Sedan 2009 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Quebec Posts: 566	not so bad man!!!I want that HP hahaha __________________ Interior:ALL red, black roof Exterior:RTX scorpion painted GOLD, side and rear visor, oem spoiler, MI mesh grill, Hella supertone horn, RS badge, Vios badge, CF pillar, Led mirror cover, fog light HID 3000k, Projector retrofit HID 8000K Performance :MI CrankPulley, Tein springs, UR and TRD bar, TURBO IN PROGRESS Audio : Pionner DEH-80PRS, HAT L1V2, PowerBass 1100.5X 5 channel amp

08-23-2012, 07:09 PM	#723
Golddeenoh Takes corners too fast! View User's Garage Drives: Absolute Red 2009 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 830	I'm with xnamerxx, Turbo set up will benefit the most, especially for systems that are going beyond the 20 or so psi (I think that is the number i remember reading) that the plastic box limits it's self to. either way still a cool product. can we get a re post of the guesses to see how close everyone was. I don't even remember what i had put. __________________ mods:15''Drag DR21 w/Nitto NeoGen 205/50R15, Tanabe DF210 lowering springs 1.6/1.8, TRD Rear Sway Bar, Tanabe Front Sway Bar, Micro Image Short Throw Shift Kit (both in and under), 8.64lbs flywheel, F1 Stage 4 Clutch, AEM Cold Air Intake (Red), Megan Racing Header, DC Sports Axle Back Exhaust, Micro Image Crank Pulley, NST lite Alternator Pulley, ARP Manifold Stud Kit,Tanabe Front Strut Tower Brace, ScanGuage II, Micro Image Silicone Radiator Hose Kit (Red), NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Knob (round), 2009-2011 Toyota Yaris Liftback Foglight kit, NRG Grounding Kit (Red), Hella Horns(Red),CF Hood

08-23-2012, 08:28 PM	#725
packetrace Drives: Yaris Sedan 2009 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Quebec Posts: 566	would you mine doing an other dyno run..without the 90 degree....and so just the velocity stack....it wont hurt the car for just a dyno run :P or maybe but a net around it __________________ Interior:ALL red, black roof Exterior:RTX scorpion painted GOLD, side and rear visor, oem spoiler, MI mesh grill, Hella supertone horn, RS badge, Vios badge, CF pillar, Led mirror cover, fog light HID 3000k, Projector retrofit HID 8000K Performance :MI CrankPulley, Tein springs, UR and TRD bar, TURBO IN PROGRESS Audio : Pionner DEH-80PRS, HAT L1V2, PowerBass 1100.5X 5 channel amp

08-23-2012, 10:04 PM	#730
Viperoni Drives: 2005 Toyota Echo Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brampton, ON Posts: 505	Good effort, too bad it didn't make more power. A mad props for going beginning to end on it :) __________________ 2006 Saturn Ion Redline 2005 Toyota Echo RS 4dr hatch - Cyl #3 bad - sold 2000 Toyota Echo 2dr coupe - The track car - rusty & scrapped

08-23-2012, 10:07 PM	#731
anomoly40 Depot Damager Drives: '08 Liftback Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 35	So I win? I got hp right and was off 2 torques. __________________ 2008 Yaris Liftback - Bought in '12 with 80k Sold in '17 with 180k Bought back in '20 with 270k Currently collecting parts for the 2zr swap

08-23-2012, 06:55 PM	#722
xnamerxx 0-60 in slow Drives: light blue liftback Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: so cal Posts: 926	I wouldn't call the manifold a failure till we see the dyno, just because the power output is low on a stock engine doesn't mean it won't work wonders on a non stock application.

08-23-2012, 07:21 PM	#724
4/20 NEVER FORGET Drives: 2008 Yaris HB MT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 100	Good job on seeing that project through. It was a lot of fun to watch. Next you should swap the TB to a Corolla throttle body :)

08-23-2012, 09:15 PM	#728
Flipper_1938 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 529	I still applaud you for getting it out of your head and onto the car

08-23-2012, 10:29 PM	#732
tooter play every day Drives: 2012 Yaris L 2dr 5sp Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,962	Here's a comparative chart of the best of the basline runs and the best of the tooter runs...

08-23-2012, 11:13 PM	#735
malibuguy Obsessed with 1.5L Drives: '10 PW Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Westminster, MD Posts: 908	Damn bittersweet ending...thanks for putting the effort out there to find out. I wonder if could aggressive tuning n/a could make gains along with a larger tb? __________________ -Greg...the Exhaust Freak. -10 PW sedan 107whp/110wtq, full exhaust, suspension bits, TRD LSD -06 Highlander 3mzfe Limited AWD -82 Malibu, 1uzfe swap -97 Tercel coupe, 1nzfe/4.31 -96 Tercel coupe, Turbo 5efe, autoX -96 Tercel 4dr

08-23-2012, 11:14 PM	#736
malibuguy Obsessed with 1.5L Drives: '10 PW Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Westminster, MD Posts: 908	Actually...some of that low end loss could be due to the supershort intake I wonder a long intake into the fender well could make magic happen? I know you have flooding issues so thats a no go for you __________________ -Greg...the Exhaust Freak. -10 PW sedan 107whp/110wtq, full exhaust, suspension bits, TRD LSD -06 Highlander 3mzfe Limited AWD -82 Malibu, 1uzfe swap -97 Tercel coupe, 1nzfe/4.31 -96 Tercel coupe, Turbo 5efe, autoX -96 Tercel 4dr

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