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sqcomp · 07-07-2011, 04:09 PM

^ *meh* I hear you. I'm posting these pics to drive Derick on to do a little more...

Speaking of...

Derick, do you have an announcement about a certain new amplifier? :D

...Also, my grill inserts are being CnC'd this week. Nice! It'll be a brushed aluminum insert over an MDF ring. I'll be making two sets of rings, one for show and one for "go" (daily use).

40 Hz in a kick. Well, I'm attempting to recreate an infinite baffle loading on the speakers. What you haven't seen, right below in the sheet metal of the car we Yaris owners have plugs that go into sub frame...just by the kick panel area. That "venting" allows the speaker to load much differently than a sealed or even a traditional vented encolsure.

Having heard the L6SE before in a "tuned" vehicle (a 3x MECA world champ vehicle), one almost doesn't need a woofer...seriously...Dave had his Camry pushing his L6SE's down to 25 Hz. They had great attack and decay, great presence and the definite ability to play low. He had two 12" woofer IB loaded in the trunk. They only came alive around 30 Hz and below.

in my setup I have more power and much more control than even that championship vehicle I'm alluding to. This means good things!

derickveliz2 · 07-08-2011, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

^ *meh* I hear you. I'm posting these pics to drive Derick on to do a little more...

Speaking of...

Derick, do you have an announcement about a certain new amplifier? :D

Yeah! it was crazy but finally I got a NIB Image Dynamic 700.2

175 watts @ 4 ohms! for my L6s

I also got for my birthday an iPad! I know the P-99 it's iPod ready! I'm going to try tomorrow if works with the iPad

I downloaded a free app with RTA:

D.

derickveliz2 · 07-09-2011, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Having heard the L6SE before in a "tuned" vehicle (a 3x MECA world champ vehicle), one almost doesn't need a woofer...seriously...Dave had his Camry pushing his L6SE's down to 25 Hz. They had great attack and decay, great presence and the definite ability to play low. He had two 12" woofer IB loaded in the trunk. They only came alive around 30 Hz and below.

in my setup I have more power and much more control than even that championship vehicle I'm alluding to. This means good things!

I'm not going to be a champ, that is not my intention, but this is exactly where I'm going to... if I can get my L6s properly installed and tuned I only need a little sub-woofer in the front!

D.

derickveliz2 · 07-08-2011, 02:37 AM

A-pillar update!

D.

_S7V7N_ · 07-08-2011, 03:53 AM

I connected my I-Touch for the first time ina while, for some reason it sounded better than my regular MP3 player, i hardly put cd's in anymore although CD's give you far better sound. I need to find a good program that will convert audio files without losing alot of SQ.

Maybe somebody can chime in.

Congrats on the i Pad ! One question if you play a movie on the i Pad will you get surround sound straight off the USB or would you have to run an Audio / video cable like this ?

derickveliz2 · 07-10-2011, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _S7V7N_

I need to find a good program that will convert audio files without losing alot of SQ.

Maybe somebody can chime in. [/IMG]

I didn't know about "Goldwave" so I've been using free software:

D.

sqcomp · 07-10-2011, 01:09 AM

http://www.goldwave.com/

sqcomp · 07-09-2011, 01:00 AM

Music file conversion? Goldwave.

sqcomp · 07-09-2011, 10:19 PM

Hey D,

How do you have the thread-serts installed in the baffle for the mids? Just screwed in?

derickveliz2 · 07-10-2011, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Hey D,

How do you have the thread-serts installed in the baffle for the mids? Just screwed in?

For this I really had to go back into my R/C skills... (not a big science, but it's simple and it works)

1.- mark precisely all 4 holes.

2.- use a tiny drill bit to center the thread-serts

3.- use a bigger drill bit but still smaller than the thread sert

4.- screw in the thread sert

5.- unscrew the tread sert

6.- apply CA + accelerator into the MDF hole

7.- re-screw thread sert

8.- apply CA + accelerator to the outside of the thread sert

I know, maybe sounds complicated but the rings for the HL-70s don't leave space for errors/mistakes, it's just to small. Like you can see in the photos the thread serts exposed on one side... final en result... rock solid.

D.

derickveliz2 · 07-10-2011, 01:13 AM

Today I test fit the a-pillars... like a glove! fit is perfect!

D.

derickveliz2 · 07-10-2011, 01:26 AM

My brother came to visit us, I took him for a ride on my Yaris, well I gave him the keys for the ride of his life! and this is what happen later:

We start pulling out the drive way and a couple of blocks away he tells me "This is a very quiet car, feels very solid and I can barely hear or feel the engine" He has a 2008 Subaru Legacy.

Then I turn on the P-99 (no a-pillars, no Mids, tweeters on cup-holders) and he was speech less... then I explained to him about Time Alignment, front stage... and he was thrilled! I told him how much better the sound is when the Mids are in action. He just couldn't believe it.

Another point for the Yaris and one more day of making me feel good about it... all this work and time on my car. Makes me feel proud of my self. (o:

D.

_S7V7N_ · 07-10-2011, 03:50 AM

Congrats bro !

sqcomp · 07-10-2011, 09:43 AM

I was hoping you CA'd those thread-serts in.

good news on the test drive!

derickveliz2 · 07-11-2011, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I was hoping you CA'd those thread-serts in.

good news on the test drive!

I love CA+Accelerator

got used to it when building r/c airplanes.

D.

sqcomp · 07-11-2011, 11:36 PM

More spurring for D to follow:

...Of course I didn't take the opportunity to take a picture with the grills over the speakers. What I have to do now is to find a NON-stainless steel machine screw (preferably a flat headed security type screw) so that I only need to use magnets on the grill's underside to attach them to the kick.

That'll probably happen sometime this week or early next.

What should be noted about these grills is that these are for daily driving and use. I have some "show" grills being made right now. I'll place those on...during shows obviously. These that are made above are a little bit of router work, some sanding, painting, stapling, and gluing. It's a fun afternoon project really.

derickveliz2 · 07-11-2011, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

More spurring for D to follow:
...Of course I didn't take the opportunity to take a picture with the grills over the speakers. What I have to do now is to find a NON-stainless steel machine screw (preferably a flat headed security type screw) so that I only need to use magnets on the grill's underside to attach them to the kick.

That'll probably happen sometime this week or early next.

What should be noted about these grills is that these are for daily driving and use. I have some "show" grills being made right now. I'll place those on...during shows obviously. These that are made above are a little bit of router work, some sanding, painting, stapling, and gluing. It's a fun afternoon project really.

Very nice, do you have a picture looking at the back of the enclosures?

D.

sqcomp · 07-12-2011, 03:13 AM

The back huh?

You're trying to see if I have them open like the last pods? If that's the case, no I don't. I've got the opening on the bottom that leads down into/through the subframe holes in the floorboard.

^This is actually the side of the pod. I can tell because the little hole right there is used to bolt the pod into the car where the wiring bundles behind the kicks go.

It doesn't look like I have any direct pics of the back. I can take some if you'd like.

^You can see the hole I was referring to through the grill cloth...

^There's also this one too...

You can see with that last one that the pod's glassing is VERY thick. When you rap or knock on the pod, it's pretty much a dead thud or impact. It's not hollow at all. I'd liken it to the same sound when you hit a stone wall. There's just THAT sound...that nope, it's not moving sound. All the interior and edges of said interior of the pods have been coated with long hair. It's simply rock solid.

I'd estimate that each of the kicks unloaded weights at least 10 lbs.

07-07-2011, 04:09 PM	#1
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	^ meh I hear you. I'm posting these pics to drive Derick on to do a little more... Speaking of... Derick, do you have an announcement about a certain new amplifier? :D ...Also, my grill inserts are being CnC'd this week. Nice! It'll be a brushed aluminum insert over an MDF ring. I'll be making two sets of rings, one for show and one for "go" (daily use). 40 Hz in a kick. Well, I'm attempting to recreate an infinite baffle loading on the speakers. What you haven't seen, right below in the sheet metal of the car we Yaris owners have plugs that go into sub frame...just by the kick panel area. That "venting" allows the speaker to load much differently than a sealed or even a traditional vented encolsure. Having heard the L6SE before in a "tuned" vehicle (a 3x MECA world champ vehicle), one almost doesn't need a woofer...seriously...Dave had his Camry pushing his L6SE's down to 25 Hz. They had great attack and decay, great presence and the definite ability to play low. He had two 12" woofer IB loaded in the trunk. They only came alive around 30 Hz and below. in my setup I have more power and much more control than even that championship vehicle I'm alluding to. This means good things! __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-08-2011, 02:37 AM	#4
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	A-pillar update! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-08-2011, 03:53 AM	#5
_S7V7N_ Drives: Yaris 4 Door Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 805	I connected my I-Touch for the first time ina while, for some reason it sounded better than my regular MP3 player, i hardly put cd's in anymore although CD's give you far better sound. I need to find a good program that will convert audio files without losing alot of SQ. Maybe somebody can chime in. Congrats on the i Pad ! One question if you play a movie on the i Pad will you get surround sound straight off the USB or would you have to run an Audio / video cable like this ? __________________ Audio is under Construction Kenwood KDC-X794 Hifonics Zeus ZXI6.5C 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component Speaker System - AUTOTEK ATX65CX 6.5-Inch Hifonics BXi 1210D - Crunch PowerZone P1400.4 (2)12 inch Kicker CVR's - 0 gauge from battery to Distribution block - 4 Gauge Power/Grounds to amps - Duralast Yellow Top - Big 3

07-10-2011, 01:09 AM	#7
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	http://www.goldwave.com/ __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-09-2011, 01:00 AM	#8
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Music file conversion? Goldwave. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-09-2011, 10:19 PM	#9
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Hey D, How do you have the thread-serts installed in the baffle for the mids? Just screwed in? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-10-2011, 01:13 AM	#11
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Today I test fit the a-pillars... like a glove! fit is perfect! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-10-2011, 01:26 AM	#12
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	My brother came to visit us, I took him for a ride on my Yaris, well I gave him the keys for the ride of his life! and this is what happen later: We start pulling out the drive way and a couple of blocks away he tells me "This is a very quiet car, feels very solid and I can barely hear or feel the engine" He has a 2008 Subaru Legacy. Then I turn on the P-99 (no a-pillars, no Mids, tweeters on cup-holders) and he was speech less... then I explained to him about Time Alignment, front stage... and he was thrilled! I told him how much better the sound is when the Mids are in action. He just couldn't believe it. Another point for the Yaris and one more day of making me feel good about it... all this work and time on my car. Makes me feel proud of my self. (o: D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-10-2011, 03:50 AM	#13
_S7V7N_ Drives: Yaris 4 Door Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 805	Congrats bro ! __________________ Audio is under Construction Kenwood KDC-X794 Hifonics Zeus ZXI6.5C 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component Speaker System - AUTOTEK ATX65CX 6.5-Inch Hifonics BXi 1210D - Crunch PowerZone P1400.4 (2)12 inch Kicker CVR's - 0 gauge from battery to Distribution block - 4 Gauge Power/Grounds to amps - Duralast Yellow Top - Big 3

07-10-2011, 09:43 AM	#14
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	I was hoping you CA'd those thread-serts in. good news on the test drive! __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-11-2011, 11:36 PM	#16
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	More spurring for D to follow: ...Of course I didn't take the opportunity to take a picture with the grills over the speakers. What I have to do now is to find a NON-stainless steel machine screw (preferably a flat headed security type screw) so that I only need to use magnets on the grill's underside to attach them to the kick. That'll probably happen sometime this week or early next. What should be noted about these grills is that these are for daily driving and use. I have some "show" grills being made right now. I'll place those on...during shows obviously. These that are made above are a little bit of router work, some sanding, painting, stapling, and gluing. It's a fun afternoon project really. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-12-2011, 03:13 AM	#18
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	The back huh? You're trying to see if I have them open like the last pods? If that's the case, no I don't. I've got the opening on the bottom that leads down into/through the subframe holes in the floorboard. ^This is actually the side of the pod. I can tell because the little hole right there is used to bolt the pod into the car where the wiring bundles behind the kicks go. It doesn't look like I have any direct pics of the back. I can take some if you'd like. ^You can see the hole I was referring to through the grill cloth... ^There's also this one too... You can see with that last one that the pod's glassing is VERY thick. When you rap or knock on the pod, it's pretty much a dead thud or impact. It's not hollow at all. I'd liken it to the same sound when you hit a stone wall. There's just THAT sound...that nope, it's not moving sound. All the interior and edges of said interior of the pods have been coated with long hair. It's simply rock solid. I'd estimate that each of the kicks unloaded weights at least 10 lbs. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

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