What Oil do you guys recomend/Use ? - Page 3 - Toyota Yaris Forums

anonymous user · 10-21-2008, 01:34 AM

I like Eneos. 5w-30. I'll be switching over all my cars from Redline soon.
Probably still use M1 in the yaris, but i'll try it out and see.

SilverGlow · 10-23-2008, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gid

in the T.S.B. by TOYOTA says 5w-20 only , not 0w-20 . Here's the T.S.B. number , TS-EG018-06 ( the last 2 digits are the year T.S.B. was / is released ) . Got the TOYOTA service department where the '08 YARIS sedan was purchased to e-mail the T.S.B. as confirmation and saved the T.S.B. ( copied from P.C. ) in case of warranty issues with the use of the 5w-20 , says 5w-30 on oil cap and in owners manual . Best to be safe than sorry .

If Toyota says we can use 20 weight oil, then that means 0W-20 and 5W-20. At operational temperature both these oils will protect the same. The only difference is that in very cold temperatures, the 0W will pump a bit easier, but not a lot easier then the 5W.

Same for 5W-30 and 0W-30....an engine that runs on one can run on the other.

1stToyota · 10-23-2008, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverGlow

If Toyota says we can use 20 weight oil, then that means 0W-20 and 5W-20. At operational temperature both these oils will protect the same. The only difference is that in very cold temperatures, the 0W will pump a bit easier, but not a lot easier then the 5W.

Same for 5W-30 and 0W-30....an engine that runs on one can run on the other.

The way I heard it explained from an expert was that the wider the viscosity the more polymers are needed and the harder it is for the molecules to stretch...something like that...under stress and heat the 5w-30 performs better.

TheSilkySmooth · 10-23-2008, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverGlow

If Toyota says we can use 20 weight oil, then that means 0W-20 and 5W-20. At operational temperature both these oils will protect the same. The only difference is that in very cold temperatures, the 0W will pump a bit easier, but not a lot easier then the 5W.

Same for 5W-30 and 0W-30....an engine that runs on one can run on the other.

Not exactly correct engine lubricant may not get to designated operational temp and viscosity of the 0W will be much less than the 5W at say 75 celcius. I am Chemist!
Make Love not Bombs! I see TSB b4 it states NO 020!

gid · 10-23-2008, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverGlow

If Toyota says we can use 20 weight oil, then that means 0W-20 and 5W-20. At operational temperature both these oils will protect the same. The only difference is that in very cold temperatures, the 0W will pump a bit easier, but not a lot easier then the 5W.

Same for 5W-30 and 0W-30....an engine that runs on one can run on the other.

says not to . Only for CAMRY , etc.. If you want to risk it , then go for it .

gid · 10-21-2008, 12:25 AM

PENNZOIL Platinum ( synthetic ) 5w-30 in '08 Liftback and the PLATINUM 5w-20 in the '08 sedan . Can get the PLATINUM for less than $4 a quart when on sale ( A.A.P. or PEPBOYS ) or at WALLYMART in a 5 quart jug for less than $20 .

firemachine69 · 10-21-2008, 02:29 PM

Any SM-rated 5w-30. Currently on Motomaster Formula 1 (blended by Shell for Canadian Tire IIRC) dino for rated five-to-six-month intervals. I don't clock enough mileage to change it out beforehand.

sanityassassinv2 · 10-21-2008, 02:46 PM

Are there any national auto parts stores that sell oil like Amsoil or Royal Purple or do I have to order the stuff online? I am coming up on my first oil change and want to make the switch but haven't seen any of this good oil that you guys are using in any local stores.

gid · 10-21-2008, 03:54 PM

go here to find local supplier for AMSOIL , www.amsoil.com/dealerlocatorresults/ .

pinoypizzaboy · 10-21-2008, 05:38 PM

amsoil 0-30 wouldnt really hurt my motor right? or should i switch it right away to 5-30. i have 500 miles on 0-30 and my car has 20k mi

bdc87 · 10-21-2008, 05:41 PM

Royal Purple 5-20.

TheSilkySmooth · 10-22-2008, 01:58 PM

My brother says that like bay-4 motorsports has good oil for motorcycle and this should be better for car then even the S&M. I dont go to bike stores they bother me too much and I have to leave

SilverGlow · 10-23-2008, 10:10 AM

Why does the poll show only two choices?

Do this: Pick the "worse" and cheapest synthetic oil on the market that has the current API ratings (SM). Use that oil and your car will last no less long as if you had used AMSOIL or Mobil1 or any of the other brands.

People say this oil is great or that oil is great but how do they know? They like the purple color? They think paying a premium means longer lasting car? How many of these people actually send a used oil sample to a testing lab like BlackStone for thorough analysis? Yet the ones that don't have their used oil analyzed will push their brand of choice hard. Lots of hearsay, lots of parroting the claims of others.

Me? I use the cheapest on-sale full synthetic and don't have the dillusion that one is much better the the other. I've seen the UOA's (used oil analysis) at BobIsTheOilGuy dot com and I'm convinced that as long as (1) the oil has the latest ratings (2) is synthetic, (3) correct viscosity and (4) mated with a decent filter, your car will last 300,000+ miles regardless of brand.

Please guys lets not turn motor oil into a religion filled with passion and fervor ;-)

1stToyota · 10-24-2008, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverGlow

I'm convinced that as long as (1) the oil has the latest ratings (2) is synthetic, (3) correct viscosity and (4) mated with a decent filter, your car will last 300,000+ miles

...you claim that 5w20 is "TSB'd"

for the Yaris (you're thinking Scion XD?), and you wrote that you use 0w (wouldn't matter if a 20 or 30 followed because my Yaris owner's states 5w30 only)...so, to follow your rule number (3) start using the "correct viscosity" if you're still expecting to see that 300k miles on your motor.

SilverGlow · 10-25-2008, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

...you claim that 5w20 is "TSB'd"

for the Yaris (you're thinking Scion XD?), and you wrote that you use 0w (wouldn't matter if a 20 or 30 followed because my Yaris owner's states 5w30 only)...so, to follow your rule number (3) start using the "correct viscosity" if you're still expecting to see that 300k miles on your motor.

You're confused, but that's okay. I do follow my rules. The TSB shows 20 weight for our engines, and I use 20 weight, and the UOA's show less wear then if I used 30 weight. Sure, the filler cap shows 30 weight, BUT the TSB which came out later says otherwise. I'm sticking with the TSB. As to 0W weight, I use that because at full operational temperature 0w-20 and 5w-20 protect exactly the same; hence the 20 part of those grades. The 0w on cold mornings flows to the upper parts of thje engine faster and gets to more parts of the internals faster.

1stToyota · 10-25-2008, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverGlow

You're confused, but that's okay. I do follow my rules. The TSB shows 20 weight for our engines, and I use 20 weight, and the UOA's show less wear then if I used 30 weight. Sure, the filler cap shows 30 weight, BUT the TSB which came out later says otherwise. I'm sticking with the TSB. As to 0W weight, I use that because at full operational temperature 0w-20 and 5w-20 protect exactly the same; hence the 20 part of those grades. The 0w on cold mornings flows to the upper parts of thje engine faster and gets to more parts of the internals faster.

It's okay that you're too dense to read...the TSB *notes* the 0w-20 is for the 2AZ-FE engine, not the Yaris 1NZ-FE engine...you did a XD motor swap in your Yaris?!

And if you live in CA why worry about those "cold mornings flows"...besides, in that TSB that you're swearing by, take note of the note @ the top of the page:

"The recommended viscosity grade for this oil differs according to vehicle model. Use the recommended grade specified on the oil filler cap or in the Repair Manual or Owner’s Manual for each vehicle."

gid · 10-24-2008, 12:53 AM

I seen a T.V. commercial for VALVOLINE " SYNPOWER " that it gives 4 times better protection to your engine than MOBIL 1 . True ?

gid · 10-24-2008, 04:26 PM

there is an Technical Service Bulletin by TOYOTA giving the o.k. for 5w-20 in '06 and beyond . Got the T.S.B. sent via e-mail from the assistant manager of service department where we bought the '08 YARIS sedan , made copy of it and put with our paperwork . We're using PENNZOIL Platinum 5w-20 in it for this stretch , haven't decided to continue it's use . So , call your TOYOTA service center for verification of T.S.B. in their computer system , number is EG018-06 .

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10-21-2008, 01:34 AM	#1
anonymous user rarer than JDM -1 of 1! View User's Garage Drives: 07yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: windward oahu Posts: 402	I like Eneos. 5w-30. I'll be switching over all my cars from Redline soon. Probably still use M1 in the yaris, but i'll try it out and see.

10-21-2008, 12:25 AM	#6
gid Drives: '08 Yaris sedan , '08 Liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northeast Posts: 643	PENNZOIL Platinum ( synthetic ) 5w-30 in '08 Liftback and the PLATINUM 5w-20 in the '08 sedan . Can get the PLATINUM for less than $4 a quart when on sale ( A.A.P. or PEPBOYS ) or at WALLYMART in a 5 quart jug for less than $20 .

10-21-2008, 02:29 PM	#7
firemachine69 School'er of hard knocks Drives: Silver Yaris 4dr. HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sudbury, On Posts: 556	Any SM-rated 5w-30. Currently on Motomaster Formula 1 (blended by Shell for Canadian Tire IIRC) dino for rated five-to-six-month intervals. I don't clock enough mileage to change it out beforehand.

10-21-2008, 02:46 PM	#8
sanityassassinv2 The poison in your poison Drives: 2008 Black Liftback MT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 75	Are there any national auto parts stores that sell oil like Amsoil or Royal Purple or do I have to order the stuff online? I am coming up on my first oil change and want to make the switch but haven't seen any of this good oil that you guys are using in any local stores.

10-21-2008, 03:54 PM	#9
gid Drives: '08 Yaris sedan , '08 Liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northeast Posts: 643	go here to find local supplier for AMSOIL , www.amsoil.com/dealerlocatorresults/ .

10-21-2008, 05:38 PM	#10
pinoypizzaboy Drives: 08 toyota yaris LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: las vegas/ henderson Posts: 182	amsoil 0-30 wouldnt really hurt my motor right? or should i switch it right away to 5-30. i have 500 miles on 0-30 and my car has 20k mi

10-21-2008, 05:41 PM	#11
bdc87 HISTORY REPEATED 11/04/08 View User's Garage Drives: 07' MM Vitz LB Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake County, CA Posts: 355	Royal Purple 5-20.

10-22-2008, 01:58 PM	#12
TheSilkySmooth Drives: 08 3DR 5M Bayou Blue; 09 Fos Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 622	My brother says that like bay-4 motorsports has good oil for motorcycle and this should be better for car then even the S&M. I dont go to bike stores they bother me too much and I have to leave

10-23-2008, 10:10 AM	#13
SilverGlow Banned Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 189	Why does the poll show only two choices? Do this: Pick the "worse" and cheapest synthetic oil on the market that has the current API ratings (SM). Use that oil and your car will last no less long as if you had used AMSOIL or Mobil1 or any of the other brands. People say this oil is great or that oil is great but how do they know? They like the purple color? They think paying a premium means longer lasting car? How many of these people actually send a used oil sample to a testing lab like BlackStone for thorough analysis? Yet the ones that don't have their used oil analyzed will push their brand of choice hard. Lots of hearsay, lots of parroting the claims of others. Me? I use the cheapest on-sale full synthetic and don't have the dillusion that one is much better the the other. I've seen the UOA's (used oil analysis) at BobIsTheOilGuy dot com and I'm convinced that as long as (1) the oil has the latest ratings (2) is synthetic, (3) correct viscosity and (4) mated with a decent filter, your car will last 300,000+ miles regardless of brand. Please guys lets not turn motor oil into a religion filled with passion and fervor ;-)

10-24-2008, 12:53 AM	#17
gid Drives: '08 Yaris sedan , '08 Liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northeast Posts: 643	I seen a T.V. commercial for VALVOLINE " SYNPOWER " that it gives 4 times better protection to your engine than MOBIL 1 . True ?

10-24-2008, 04:26 PM	#18
gid Drives: '08 Yaris sedan , '08 Liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northeast Posts: 643	there is an Technical Service Bulletin by TOYOTA giving the o.k. for 5w-20 in '06 and beyond . Got the T.S.B. sent via e-mail from the assistant manager of service department where we bought the '08 YARIS sedan , made copy of it and put with our paperwork . We're using PENNZOIL Platinum 5w-20 in it for this stretch , haven't decided to continue it's use . So , call your TOYOTA service center for verification of T.S.B. in their computer system , number is EG018-06 .