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Old 10-24-2008, 05:16 PM   #1
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there is an Technical Service Bulletin by TOYOTA giving the o.k. for 5w-20 in '06 and beyond . Got the T.S.B. sent via e-mail from the assistant manager of service department where we bought the '08 YARIS sedan , made copy of it and put with our paperwork . We're using PENNZOIL Platinum 5w-20 in it for this stretch , haven't decided to continue it's use . So , call your TOYOTA service center for verification of T.S.B. in their computer system , number is EG018-06 .
I looked at the TSB on NapaFix, 5w-20 is listed for Toyota and Scion, 0w-20 is listed for the 2AZ-FE engine, not the Yaris 1NZ-FE engine...their *note* at the start of the article seems kind of confusing though:

Quote: "The recommended viscosity grade for this oil differs according to vehicle model. Use the recommended grade specified on the oil filler cap or in the Repair Manual or Owner’s Manual for each vehicle."
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:29 AM   #2
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I already stated 5w-20 , not 0w-20

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I looked at the TSB on NapaFix, 5w-20 is listed for Toyota and Scion, 0w-20 is listed for the 2AZ-FE engine, not the Yaris 1NZ-FE engine...their *note* at the start of the article seems kind of confusing though:

Quote: "The recommended viscosity grade for this oil differs according to vehicle model. Use the recommended grade specified on the oil filler cap or in the Repair Manual or Owner’s Manual for each vehicle."
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Old 10-25-2008, 03:33 PM   #3
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"5w-20 is listed for Toyota and Scion"

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Sorry. When I wrote 5w-20 I was actually in agreement with you. The 0w-20 statement from the TSB was for those that might be confused into thinking that what goes for the XD engine somehow goes for the Yaris engine.

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Old 10-26-2008, 12:33 AM   #4
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Thumbs up o.k. , thanks

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Sorry. When I wrote 5w-20 I was actually in agreement with you. The 0w-20 statement from the TSB was for those that might be confused into thinking that what goes for the XD engine somehow goes for the Yaris engine.

very seldom do I have someone agree in this place .
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Old 10-24-2008, 03:26 PM   #5
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Guys Guys....... Its just oil =D! Lets just list the best 5 and be done with it
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Old 10-24-2008, 05:53 PM   #6
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iam gonna try the greddy 5w-30 on my 4age 20v blacktop to see how it works if i like the ayri will have it too
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Old 10-25-2008, 07:18 PM   #7
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I personally run 5-30 Royal Triton (Purple). But I was just wondering is anyone using Redline Oils here? Mobil One, Ams, and Rp are three of the best you can get any of them and it would be a wise choice. Ams just makes some interesting blends some that last as long as 25,000 miles so essentially a once a year change for most.
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:24 AM   #8
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You just want quiet, smooth engine reasonable economy, service life and not varnish. The Varnish will break loose at the oil changeout period and can get into small places and cause problems. Sales staff say our car has Life time "chain tensioner" and hydraulic cam phasing so this parts do not suffer varnish floating around without problem. My Family had Mazda v6 which tensioner alway is failing due to dirty oil and so to my brothers motorcycle. He had to switch to superior AECA formulation from inferior ILSAC SM specification N.A. gunk. Sorry I digress ...So, the wider the Viscosity Index the less optimal the oil will be for long life and varnish creation (cause by oxidisation of polymeric additives). So even in Ethylene gas synthesized - 0W30 worse than 10W30 and 0W20 (cause of tighter VI) better than 0w30 if engine expressly designed for the base oil weight. Yaris 1dot5 litre is not designed for 0W base oil and will have shortened service interval in this suboptimal application. Sorry Gentlemen - I try to act like dumb skirt so people will not hate me and like me but i have to throw down the gauntlet now seeing so much misinformation on this forum. Sorry to say API oil "sucks" All of it.

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Old 10-26-2008, 11:38 AM   #9
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we're using synthetic because it tames the engine noise and do many short trips. Someday may switch to a syn-blend and then to conventional oil again .
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Old 10-26-2008, 02:54 PM   #10
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i run greddy gr3 5w 30 with some lucas oil additive and she runs smooth
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Old 10-28-2008, 12:57 PM   #11
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My dad says:

Try CD oil detergent with extreme pressure-wear additives available at the local auto-parts store is very good to get API oil perform almost like AECA A3 B3? Except Viscosity will be less for economy. Will make almost to Porsche spec

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Old 10-28-2008, 02:32 PM   #12
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if using an 5w-20 , I read it's best to use one that's rated ACEA A_ and B1 or greater . The PENNZOIL Platinum 5w-20 we're using is only rated A1-02 , while the PLATINUM 5w-30 is also B1 and B5 . I believe MOBIL 1 5w-20 has a B rating , as for other manufacturers . Would have to do some searching on the web or in the store . May go to another 5w-20 synthetic that has the B rating . The ratings are printed on the label on back of the oil bottle .
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:32 AM   #13
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if using an 5w-20 , I read it's best to use one that's rated ACEA A_ and B1 or greater . The PENNZOIL Platinum 5w-20 we're using is only rated A1-02 , while the PLATINUM 5w-30 is also B1 and B5 . I believe MOBIL 1 5w-20 has a B rating , as for other manufacturers . Would have to do some searching on the web or in the store . May go to another 5w-20 synthetic that has the B rating . The ratings are printed on the label on back of the oil bottle .
Have you researched Amsoil yet? I'm considering switching to Amsoil with my next oil change. I can get Amsoil's HP 5w30 for nearly the exact same price that I'm now paying for Eneos.
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:36 PM   #14
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I would use AMSOIL or REDLINE if they were cheaper . PENNZOIL Platinum gets very good U.O.A.s ( used oil analysis ) at www.bobistheoilguy.com ( look under Used Oil Analysis - Gas ) , plus it's fairly cheap . I've picked up the PLATINUM for less than $3 a quart in the past .

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I would use AMSOIL or REDLINE if they were cheaper . PENNZOIL Platinum gets very good U.O.A.s ( used oil analysis ) at www.bobistheoilguy.com , plus it's fairly cheap . I've picked up the PLATINUM for less than $3 a quart in the past .
HI Mr. GID: Do you get the high mileage with your platinum oil too? Is the Power good? How do you drive hard or easy? This may be a good deal
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:48 PM   #16
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When it will be time for my first oil change, I'll be using Mobil 1 5W-20.
Been using Mobil 1 for many, many years and never had any engine problems; besides our C55AMG and C350 uses Mobil 1 too.
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Old 10-29-2008, 01:13 PM   #17
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HI Mr. GID: Do you get the high mileage with your platinum oil too? Is the Power good? How do you drive hard or easy? This may be a good deal
with the PLATINUM 5w-30 the power is good , been averaging close to 39 miles per gallon since last NOVEMBER , and it tames the engine noise . Using REDLINE MT-90 true synthetic gear oil as well for the '08 5 speed liftback . This car was used for delivery route once a week for about 8 months as well , so quite extreme driving . One time the car got 42 m.p.g. while doing the route , other times 40 or little less ( some of that included 4 studded tires ). The route was 100+ miles , 4 hours long , around 400 stops , many steep hills , and 2 people . There's usually 2 of us in the car since the purchase . The '08 automatic sedan has the PLATINUM 5w-20 and got 40.03 miles per gallon on a test drive after 4 studded tires were put on ( see post under FUEL ECONOMY FORUM ) . That car has overall average of 39 miles per gallon as well , right on par with the stick shift . We'll have to wait and see how the colder weather affects it .
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I would use AMSOIL or REDLINE if they were cheaper . PENNZOIL Platinum gets very good U.O.A.s ( used oil analysis ) at www.bobistheoilguy.com ( look under Used Oil Analysis - Gas ) , plus it's fairly cheap . I've picked up the PLATINUM for less than $3 a quart in the past .
Amsoil's XL5w20 has the A1/B1 rating, and a friend offered to get me some for a discounted price of $5.65 per qt, but I'm thinking of staying with 5w30 and bumping up to their mid-priced HP series for $6.95 each (it has a A5/B5-04 rating) ...the HP5w20 ratings should be pretty close to those same ratings, I assume. And agreed on the Pennzoil Platinum UOA's...the oil expert (SgtGeek) that I made mention of earlier stated that their results were some of the best he sees.
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