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PETERPOOP · 10-24-2008, 01:51 AM

can this work with the 2500$ turbo kit that is coming out? or is it one or the other.

Nexus1155 · 10-24-2008, 11:41 AM

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can this work with the 2500$ turbo kit that is coming out? or is it one or the other

I think he is designing them both on the same car, so assumingly so...

cleong · 10-24-2008, 11:43 AM

Does it require a different engine management? Or will it run on the stock ECU?

ChinoCharles · 10-24-2008, 11:43 AM

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Thirty-Nine · 10-24-2008, 12:34 PM

Glad to see you back, Richard.

cali yaris · 10-24-2008, 12:37 PM

I believe the intake manifold will run on the stock ECU. It's not forced induction, just BETTER induction

And, since it's on the cold side, it would certainly work alongside a turbo application..

richardholdener · 10-24-2008, 02:59 PM

We will provide a test to verify the gains both turbo (and centirfugal supercharged) and NA, as the intake offers power gains on all applications. Contrary to some of the nonsense on the internet, intake design is a function of engine displacement, cam timing and operating rpm. The difference between an intake for a normally aspirated combination and a turbo combination (using the same motor, cam tming and operating speed) is minimal. Again, the intake runs with stock ECU and no CELs.

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

I believe the intake manifold will run on the stock ECU. It's not forced induction, just BETTER induction

And, since it's on the cold side, it would certainly work alongside a turbo application..

cleong · 10-24-2008, 01:01 PM

I'm just a bit doubtful if the stock ECU will be able to handle the better induction without throwing a code. It seems to have quite tight operating parameters which it considers "normal".

Will an aftermarket air filter be necessary, or can you just bolt the stock airbox back in?

Lots of questions but that's because I'm interested in the product. 10whp is too good a gain to turn down if it is plug and play.

CASTREX · 10-24-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cleong

I'm just a bit doubtful if the stock ECU will be able to handle the better induction without throwing a code. It seems to have quite tight operating parameters which it considers "normal".

Will an aftermarket air filter be necessary, or can you just bolt the stock airbox back in?

Lots of questions but that's because I'm interested in the product. 10whp is too good a gain to turn down if it is plug and play.

If the TB remains in the same position which it think it does you should be able to use the stock airbox.... BUT,, why would you do that? In order to achive the full benefits of an Intake manifold the car will require a performance Intake and Exhaust. Other wise what would be the point to invest on the Intake Mani???

kou · 10-24-2008, 01:37 PM

ready and waiting.just wish there was a little more in the 4-5k range.

richardholdener · 10-24-2008, 03:01 PM

This is not entirely accurate, as the intake will offer gains with the stock air box and exhaust. The combination of the intake, CAI and free-flowing exhaust will produce more power than the intake with a stock exhaust and air box, but the intake will still off the same percentage gains with both combinations.

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Originally Posted by CASTREX

If the TB remains in the same position which it think it does you should be able to use the stock airbox.... BUT,, why would you do that? In order to achive the full benefits of an Intake manifold the car will require a performance Intake and Exhaust. Other wise what would be the point to invest on the Intake Mani???

richardholdener · 10-24-2008, 02:48 PM

Please feel free to ask questions about the intake rather than resort to speculation. The intake offers the gains described by the dyno chart with no CEL and no changes to ECU. There are no programming changes necessary for the intake upgrade. The reason for this is the Yaris motor features a mass air meter which compensates for the additional airflow produced by the resonance tuning. The mass ai rmeter will address the extra airflow and offer the necessary extra fuel flow. The intake upgrade produced the same air/fuel curve as the stock manifold. These gains are not dependant on the CAI, but the combination of the CAI and intake will offer slightly more power than the intake and stock air box.

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Originally Posted by cleong

I'm just a bit doubtful if the stock ECU will be able to handle the better induction without throwing a code. It seems to have quite tight operating parameters which it considers "normal".

Will an aftermarket air filter be necessary, or can you just bolt the stock airbox back in?

Lots of questions but that's because I'm interested in the product. 10whp is too good a gain to turn down if it is plug and play.

cleong · 10-24-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by richardholdener

Please feel free to ask questions about the intake rather than resort to speculation. The intake offers the gains described by the dyno chart with no CEL and no changes to ECU. There are no programming changes necessary for the intake upgrade. The reason for this is the Yaris motor features a mass air meter which compensates for the additional airflow produced by the resonance tuning. The mass ai rmeter will address the extra airflow and offer the necessary extra fuel flow. The intake upgrade produced the same air/fuel curve as the stock manifold. These gains are not dependant on the CAI, but the combination of the CAI and intake will offer slightly more power than the intake and stock air box.

Thank you. You told me exactly what I wanted to know. As you can see, I'm rather far away, so when the user dyno charts start flooding in confirming the performance increase, I'm buying one.

As you mention that it is a CNC-ed part, do you have problems with heatsoak from having it bolted to the engine, and then the manifold heating up the intake air temperature though? One of my mates tried a custom built stainless steel manifold on his engine, but abandoned the idea as intake temps jumped from an ambient of 100-110 degrees to 160 degrees, which ended up costing the engine power instead.

kou · 10-25-2008, 12:13 AM

^^^you need aluminium not stainless steel for an intake.^^^^

ddongbap · 10-24-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cleong

I'm just a bit doubtful if the stock ECU will be able to handle the better induction without throwing a code. It seems to have quite tight operating parameters which it considers "normal".

Will an aftermarket air filter be necessary, or can you just bolt the stock airbox back in?

Lots of questions but that's because I'm interested in the product. 10whp is too good a gain to turn down if it is plug and play.

I'm running a supercharge tune on a N/A car, so yea. Don't jump to conclusions.

BTW, Mr. Richard Holdner, is this kit the top end one? Or is this the midrange one? I know there was a poll earlier. I didn't get to see what everyone had chosen.

richardholdener · 10-24-2008, 07:08 PM

Thi sis the top end version-we willnot be offering the mid-range version.

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Originally Posted by ddongbap

I'm running a supercharge tune on a N/A car, so yea. Don't jump to conclusions.

BTW, Mr. Richard Holdner, is this kit the top end one? Or is this the midrange one? I know there was a poll earlier. I didn't get to see what everyone had chosen.

ddongbap · 10-24-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by richardholdener

Thi sis the top end version-we willnot be offering the mid-range version.

NICE.

bzinn 1 · 10-24-2008, 02:02 PM

That will sell very well for xD owners.......perhaps a caravan down from the NW with all of our owners would help production......LOL......

Patiently waiting for intake.....the 1.5 needs something liek this badly.

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10-24-2008, 01:01 PM	#8
cleong Parallel Parking Pro View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 1.5 Manual Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 590	I'm just a bit doubtful if the stock ECU will be able to handle the better induction without throwing a code. It seems to have quite tight operating parameters which it considers "normal". Will an aftermarket air filter be necessary, or can you just bolt the stock airbox back in? Lots of questions but that's because I'm interested in the product. 10whp is too good a gain to turn down if it is plug and play. __________________ Leong's NCP91 Toyota Yaris E Hankook V12 Evo 195/55/15 on Buddy Club P1 replicas 15x7 ET +38 Stebel horns, Philips Silvervision turn indicator bulbs TTE Lowering Springs, Camber bolts TRD Blue brake pads Fujitsubo Super Wagolis axleback exhaust DC Sports header

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kou View User's Garage Drives: 08 lb Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: nj Posts: 935	ready and waiting.just wish there was a little more in the 4-5k range.

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bzinn 1 Drives: 2008 Yaris HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: University Place,WA Posts: 828	That will sell very well for xD owners.......perhaps a caravan down from the NW with all of our owners would help production......LOL...... Patiently waiting for intake.....the 1.5 needs something liek this badly.