Nitto Mid-Pipe Check Engine Light fix - Page 3 - Toyota Yaris Forums

cali yaris · 11-01-2008, 01:34 AM

OOH BABY!!

(made my night)

YarisSedan · 11-01-2008, 03:37 AM

Why are you guys removing your cats anyways. 1 you remove all the backpressure which you need. Sure you will get more power but you are seriousely going to impact your fuel economy which is why most of us bought this car in the first place? Second for the slight power you are going to achive which could be only 5hp at the most as opposed to doing a midpipe from the cat back. You are going to cause an extreme amount of polution. As well as mess up egr function. Not to mention how loud it is going to be. So now if you dont like this sound you will have to choose to have a restrictive muffler to muffle the sound which you could just have a nice open muffler with a cat since a cat muffles sound more than your muffler does.

Also I know in california check engine light is automatic smog failure. Not to mention it would automatically fail anyways since you have no cat.

Unless someone can prove me wrong and have thier vehicle smoged without any cats on it would be interesting to see how much emissions our little engines produce. We do have 2 cats though and its not a zero emission vehicle even with those 2 cats. HC is going to be low probally but it probally has a problem with nox

eTiMaGo · 11-01-2008, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YarisSedan

Why are you guys removing your cats anyways. 1 you remove all the backpressure which you need. Sure you will get more power but you are seriousely going to impact your fuel economy which is why most of us bought this car in the first place? Second for the slight power you are going to achive which could be only 5hp at the most as opposed to doing a midpipe from the cat back. You are going to cause an extreme amount of polution. As well as mess up egr function. Not to mention how loud it is going to be. So now if you dont like this sound you will have to choose to have a restrictive muffler to muffle the sound which you could just have a nice open muffler with a cat since a cat muffles sound more than your muffler does.

Also I know in california check engine light is automatic smog failure. Not to mention it would automatically fail anyways since you have no cat.

Unless someone can prove me wrong and have thier vehicle smoged without any cats on it would be interesting to see how much emissions our little engines produce. We do have 2 cats though and its not a zero emission vehicle even with those 2 cats. HC is going to be low probally but it probally has a problem with nox

Some very valid questions there, here's my point of view.

1) Those who bought this car solely for the fuel efficiency will never want to get one of these anyway

But there are some of us who like to balance the efficiency with some added fun.

2) Pollution, yes, this is a weak point of this product, as there are no cats it does dump raw exhaust. On the other hand, with "only" a 1.5L engine it produces just a fraction of the noxious stuff that you'd get from a catless V8, for example.

3) Noise? Ask anyone who has installed one, it actually really softens the exhaust note, what with 3 resonators... Totally different from a plain straight pipe.

4) OK, here there are no such things as smog checks. But for those in the US, it's relatively easy to swap back the original midpipe for the inspection.

So, as with any aftermarket part for a car, it's the owner's choice. As of the time of writing, this midpipe is the only "bolt-on" choice available, though it would certainly be nice to see some other company come up with a better alternative

largeorangefont · 11-01-2008, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YarisSedan

Why are you guys removing your cats anyways. 1 you remove all the backpressure which you need. Sure you will get more power but you are seriousely going to impact your fuel economy which is why most of us bought this car in the first place? Second for the slight power you are going to achive which could be only 5hp at the most as opposed to doing a midpipe from the cat back. You are going to cause an extreme amount of polution. As well as mess up egr function. Not to mention how loud it is going to be. So now if you dont like this sound you will have to choose to have a restrictive muffler to muffle the sound which you could just have a nice open muffler with a cat since a cat muffles sound more than your muffler does.

Also I know in california check engine light is automatic smog failure. Not to mention it would automatically fail anyways since you have no cat.

Unless someone can prove me wrong and have thier vehicle smoged without any cats on it would be interesting to see how much emissions our little engines produce. We do have 2 cats though and its not a zero emission vehicle even with those 2 cats. HC is going to be low probally but it probally has a problem with nox

Removing the cats does not remove all the backpressure, The car will make a couple HP more. Removing them will not change the fuel economy, and it will not mess up EGR either. The car will smell a bit, and may be slightly louder when catless.

It will not pass a sniffer test in CA, but cars do not need to be smogged for 6 years after buying a new car. Passing is as simple a swapping the midpipe to the stock unit for the smog check.

It has been proven that using a high flow cat will give you about the same HP as going catless. It may pass smog that way if the cat is placed in the correct spot, and the car won't smell. This would mean constructing a custom midpipe.

Klink10 · 11-01-2008, 08:44 AM

QUOTE: As of the time of writing, this midpipe is the only "bolt-on" choice available, though it would certainly be nice to see some other company come up with a better alternative

Agreed

Klink10 · 11-01-2008, 12:15 PM

My elbow is enroute now all I need is a pipe. Gonna do all this and header I hope when the Holdener manifold gets here. Interested in how yours will turn out with that elbow added.

cali yaris · 11-01-2008, 12:42 PM

I will be, they are already ordered.

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Oh, and BTW, ROCKLAND is an annoying idiot! Why hasn't he been banned yet?

Amen.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA · 11-01-2008, 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=cali yaris;161956

Amen.[/QUOTE]
thanks garm, it'll be remembered............

Jerkratt · 11-01-2008, 03:15 PM

come ons top the bitchering! dammit anyway im going to try to install the non foulers i have...

at3GG · 11-01-2008, 05:29 PM

Largeorange/cali Thats what i was thinking. I stopped at a shop i prefer around here and asked and the guy told me probably around 400 for a dual custom setup. I think he was figuring in mufflers but Ive got the megan on now and if i had them do the set up i would get another megan for the back i think. So maybe like $300 for a dual setup? I think i could live with that. Does anyone here have a dual setup? Not dual tip muffler i mean single tip on each side of the back of the car? If so I may reconsider or just go with the nitto.

*edit* although i suppose i dont want to have that extra weight for no extra power. I guess I'll just stick with a custom single or the nitto. It would look cool though.

at3GG · 11-02-2008, 03:52 PM

no opinions?

Malaya1221 · 11-02-2008, 04:13 PM

flowmaster or magnaflow (i think) made that kind of exhaust for 1 of the LB member here, i forget who it was. don't know if it went on production though!

at3GG · 11-02-2008, 06:35 PM

Ahh thanks

Jerkratt · 11-10-2008, 09:17 PM

so did the CEL eliminator work that cali sent? i see hes selling them online but did u guys confirm it works?

Split · 11-10-2008, 09:52 PM

i used that elbow bend for 3500miles and no CEL. I am now selling that CEL fixer for +$35 shipped. (its a piece of metal and it looks brand new) That guy wayne builds to order, i had to wait over a month for mine before he even built it. Mine is ready to ship same day as purchase/payment and I can verify that it works!

whooppee777 · 12-01-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Split

i used that elbow bend for 3500miles and no CEL. I am now selling that CEL fixer for +$35 shipped. (its a piece of metal and it looks brand new) That guy wayne builds to order, i had to wait over a month for mine before he even built it. Mine is ready to ship same day as purchase/payment and I can verify that it works!

i bought one from wayne last week. got it saturday. took only a few minutes to install. CEL went away in less than 10 miles. it works

Thej3sta2 · 11-10-2008, 10:43 PM

post it up in the classiiiiissss

Malaya1221 · 11-11-2008, 01:39 AM

been using HELP defouler for 3 wks now with no CEL!

11-01-2008, 01:34 AM	#1
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	OOH BABY!! (made my night) __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

11-01-2008, 01:31 PM	#8
ROCKLAND TOYOTA TRIM HUNTER View User's Garage Drives: 2007 BLAZIN BLUE YARIS 3 DR Join Date: May 2006 Location: ROCKLAND COUNTY NY Posts: 2,088	[QUOTE=cali yaris;161956 Amen.[/QUOTE] thanks garm, it'll be remembered............ __________________ http://rocklandtoyota.com/IFrame.aspx?iFrameID=2388 TOYOTA PARTS AT A DISCOUNT........

11-01-2008, 03:15 PM	#9
Jerkratt View User's Garage Drives: 08 Yaris Liftback S (RIP 07) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Fair Lawn, NJ Posts: 1,379	come ons top the bitchering! dammit anyway im going to try to install the non foulers i have... __________________ "It hurts more when its wet"

11-01-2008, 05:29 PM	#10
at3GG Drives: 07 metmet LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: VA Beach Posts: 648	Largeorange/cali Thats what i was thinking. I stopped at a shop i prefer around here and asked and the guy told me probably around 400 for a dual custom setup. I think he was figuring in mufflers but Ive got the megan on now and if i had them do the set up i would get another megan for the back i think. So maybe like $300 for a dual setup? I think i could live with that. Does anyone here have a dual setup? Not dual tip muffler i mean single tip on each side of the back of the car? If so I may reconsider or just go with the nitto. edit although i suppose i dont want to have that extra weight for no extra power. I guess I'll just stick with a custom single or the nitto. It would look cool though. __________________ F5 CAI, MR axleback, MR Header, NST SSK. Full Exhaust wrap, AT3 Custom SSK Konig Heliums 15x6.5 Black Tanabe Df210's Last edited by at3GG; 11-02-2008 at 12:24 PM.

11-02-2008, 03:52 PM	#11
at3GG Drives: 07 metmet LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: VA Beach Posts: 648	no opinions? __________________ F5 CAI, MR axleback, MR Header, NST SSK. Full Exhaust wrap, AT3 Custom SSK Konig Heliums 15x6.5 Black Tanabe Df210's

11-01-2008, 03:37 AM	#2
YarisSedan Drives: 08 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 2,773	Why are you guys removing your cats anyways. 1 you remove all the backpressure which you need. Sure you will get more power but you are seriousely going to impact your fuel economy which is why most of us bought this car in the first place? Second for the slight power you are going to achive which could be only 5hp at the most as opposed to doing a midpipe from the cat back. You are going to cause an extreme amount of polution. As well as mess up egr function. Not to mention how loud it is going to be. So now if you dont like this sound you will have to choose to have a restrictive muffler to muffle the sound which you could just have a nice open muffler with a cat since a cat muffles sound more than your muffler does. Also I know in california check engine light is automatic smog failure. Not to mention it would automatically fail anyways since you have no cat. Unless someone can prove me wrong and have thier vehicle smoged without any cats on it would be interesting to see how much emissions our little engines produce. We do have 2 cats though and its not a zero emission vehicle even with those 2 cats. HC is going to be low probally but it probally has a problem with nox

11-01-2008, 08:44 AM	#5
Klink10 View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 910 Posts: 1,229	QUOTE: As of the time of writing, this midpipe is the only "bolt-on" choice available, though it would certainly be nice to see some other company come up with a better alternative Agreed

11-01-2008, 12:15 PM	#6
Klink10 View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 910 Posts: 1,229	My elbow is enroute now all I need is a pipe. Gonna do all this and header I hope when the Holdener manifold gets here. Interested in how yours will turn out with that elbow added.

11-02-2008, 04:13 PM	#12
Malaya1221 super duper M*******TOR Drives: 2007 jahPANIS egg(Sarao Phil) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Torrance, Ca Posts: 1,011	flowmaster or magnaflow (i think) made that kind of exhaust for 1 of the LB member here, i forget who it was. don't know if it went on production though!

11-02-2008, 06:35 PM	#13
at3GG Drives: 07 metmet LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: VA Beach Posts: 648	Ahh thanks __________________ F5 CAI, MR axleback, MR Header, NST SSK. Full Exhaust wrap, AT3 Custom SSK Konig Heliums 15x6.5 Black Tanabe Df210's

11-10-2008, 09:17 PM	#14
Jerkratt View User's Garage Drives: 08 Yaris Liftback S (RIP 07) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Fair Lawn, NJ Posts: 1,379	so did the CEL eliminator work that cali sent? i see hes selling them online but did u guys confirm it works? __________________ "It hurts more when its wet"

11-10-2008, 09:52 PM	#15
Split Drives: 2008 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmonton Posts: 393	i used that elbow bend for 3500miles and no CEL. I am now selling that CEL fixer for +$35 shipped. (its a piece of metal and it looks brand new) That guy wayne builds to order, i had to wait over a month for mine before he even built it. Mine is ready to ship same day as purchase/payment and I can verify that it works!

11-10-2008, 10:43 PM	#17
Thej3sta2 Drives: Soon to be LFA Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 523	post it up in the classiiiiissss __________________

11-11-2008, 01:39 AM	#18
Malaya1221 super duper M*******TOR Drives: 2007 jahPANIS egg(Sarao Phil) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Torrance, Ca Posts: 1,011	been using HELP defouler for 3 wks now with no CEL!

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