added air to my tires.

[TgrChica7]

I'm not trying to argue with you Voodoo, but we do work with this everyday and we see the effects of how people mistreat their tires, you may be an exception bc you haven't had anything happen to you yet, but just be aware that it is possible. We (natethegreat and I) are only giving you what we know and see and highly recommend that you stick to the manufacturers recommendations seeing as they do extensive testing as well as the tire companies to determine what certain vehicles and tires can handle in order to be safe for you and others around you.

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by TgrChica7

I'm not trying to argue with you Voodoo, but we do work with this everyday and we see the effects of how people mistreat their tires, you may be an exception bc you haven't had anything happen to you yet, but just be aware that it is possible. We (natethegreat and I) are only giving you what we know and see and highly recommend that you stick to the manufacturers recommendations seeing as they do extensive testing as well as the tire companies to determine what certain vehicles and tires can handle in order to be safe for you and others around you.

I have my own experiences based on how I drive and take care of my car. I appreciate what you're saying(and more so how you're saying it in a professional way), but based on my own personal experiences and the experiences of hundreds of other people I have discussed this topic with who have actually implemented both trains of thought on psi on their cars, I do not agree. I didn't come to these conclusions over night, or from reading 1 post in a forum.

What I also think is being left out here, is that it is proven under inflating your tires is unquestionably dangerous. This is what really causes blow outs and hydroplaning. It also causes a large decrease in FE and tire life.

Even if you don't prescribe to the philosophy that inflating to the max sidewall and even a little beyond is not going to cause you problems unless you are driving your car incorrectly to begin with and then you're a hazard on the road no matter what the psi is in your tires. I would at least hope everyone would stress that everyone should never under any circumstance have a psi lower than the one listed in their cars manual.

For me the bottom line is to never take anyones word on anything. Research it and figure it out for yourself. If you take someones word simply based on how much money and research they say they spent on something or how big of a company they are then we'd still believe things like the world is flat and that the Ford Pinto was a safe car.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by voodoo22

I have my own experiences based on how I drive and take care of my car. I appreciate what you're saying(and more so how you're saying it in a professional way), but based on my own personal experiences and the experiences of hundreds of other people I have discussed this topic with who have actually implemented both trains of thought on psi on their cars, I do not agree. I didn't come to these conclusions over night, or from reading 1 post in a forum.

What I also think is being left out here, is that it is proven under inflating your tires is unquestionably dangerous. This is what really causes blow outs and hydroplaning. It also causes a large decrease in FE and tire life.

Even if you don't prescribe to the philosophy that inflating to the max sidewall and even a little beyond is not going to cause you problems unless you are driving your car incorrectly to begin with and then you're a hazard on the road no matter what the psi is in your tires. I would at least hope everyone would stress that everyone should never under any circumstance have a psi lower than the one listed in their cars manual.

For me the bottom line is to never take anyones word on anything. Research it and figure it out for yourself. If you take someones word simply based on how much money and research they say they spent on something or how big of a company they are then we'd still believe things like the world is flat and that the Ford Pinto was a safe car.

I believe this thread is about over inflating. True the max sidewall pressure is 44 psi as it states on the side of the tire. But also if you notice on the side of the tire it states that you should follow your vehicle manufactor's psi recommendation and not their ratings. When they develop a tire they put an average rating on it to go with any car that tire might be put on. But thats why they tell you to follow your vehicle manufactor because they don't know what the weight of the car will be, is it will be RWD, FWD, etc.

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

I believe this thread is about over inflating. True the max sidewall pressure is 44 psi as it states on the side of the tire. But also if you notice on the side of the tire it states that you should follow your vehicle manufactor's psi recommendation and not their ratings. When they develop a tire they put an average rating on it to go with any car that tire might be put on. But thats why they tell you to follow your vehicle manufactor because they don't know what the weight of the car will be, is it will be RWD, FWD, etc.

ok.... so. the yaris is 2300lbs. how many cars are there out there that weigh less than 2300lbs which MIGHT run these same tires? I have a hard time thinking that weight is such a big factor on these tires when coupled with a yaris. Maybe the 14" variant is different, I dunno... but the 15" tire could possible find itself of heavier sedans, or even light duty trucks I imagine. which could weight as much as 1000lbs more than the yaris.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

ok.... so. the yaris is 2300lbs. how many cars are there out there that weigh less than 2300lbs which MIGHT run these same tires? I have a hard time thinking that weight is such a big factor on these tires when coupled with a yaris. Maybe the 14" variant is different, I dunno... but the 15" tire could possible find itself of heavier sedans, or even light duty trucks I imagine. which could weight as much as 1000lbs more than the yaris.

whats your point young grasshopper??