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Old 11-08-2008, 12:11 PM   #1
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some of my friends have told me to get the 4-1 for yaris...any reason y?
if u keep u rev above 3K, 4-1 is better or 4-2-1?
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:35 PM   #2
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some of my friends have told me to get the 4-1 for yaris...any reason y?
if u keep u rev above 3K, 4-1 is better or 4-2-1?
I've heard 4-1 is better for the higher range, and 4-2-1 is better for the lower/middle ranges.
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Old 11-08-2008, 01:32 PM   #3
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some of my friends have told me to get the 4-1 for yaris...any reason y?
if u keep u rev above 3K, 4-1 is better or 4-2-1?
The DC header mentioned above is actually a 4-1 design. There is only one 4-2-1 header available for the Yaris and is from Weapon R.

In theory a 4-1 will provide a better gain and higher rpm while a 4-2-1 will provide better gains at the mid range. The problem is that by design the Yaris header is so short that I doubt there is much difference between any of the current model available. So I would tell you to choose the one that fits your budget!

If you want the ultimate set up and still keep it legal for emission testing I will tell you to get a high flow cat Only one or at least remove the secondary cat leave the primary cat. You already have a bolt on muffler so you just need the mid pipe.
If you can get mandrel bent tubing go for 2" pipe if you can't get it, then go for 2.25" pipe.
If you want it civil, snap a round mufller/resonator in the middle in place of the OE resonator and ou are good to go!

And the header will make some difference as long as you work out the rest of the muffler. Not much gain by mating a header with a stock exhaust.
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The DC header mentioned above is actually a 4-1 design. There is only one 4-2-1 header available for the Yaris and is from Weapon R.

In theory a 4-1 will provide a better gain and higher rpm while a 4-2-1 will provide better gains at the mid range. The problem is that by design the Yaris header is so short that I doubt there is much difference between any of the current model available. So I would tell you to choose the one that fits your budget!

If you want the ultimate set up and still keep it legal for emission testing I will tell you to get a high flow cat Only one or at least remove the secondary cat leave the primary cat. You already have a bolt on muffler so you just need the mid pipe.
If you can get mandrel bent tubing go for 2" pipe if you can't get it, then go for 2.25" pipe.
If you want it civil, snap a round mufller/resonator in the middle in place of the OE resonator and ou are good to go!

And the header will make some difference as long as you work out the rest of the muffler. Not much gain by mating a header with a stock exhaust.
Interesting info! Thanks CASTREX
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Old 11-08-2008, 09:25 PM   #5
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The DC header mentioned above is actually a 4-1 design. There is only one 4-2-1 header available for the Yaris and is from Weapon R.

In theory a 4-1 will provide a better gain and higher rpm while a 4-2-1 will provide better gains at the mid range. The problem is that by design the Yaris header is so short that I doubt there is much difference between any of the current model available. So I would tell you to choose the one that fits your budget!

If you want the ultimate set up and still keep it legal for emission testing I will tell you to get a high flow cat Only one or at least remove the secondary cat leave the primary cat. You already have a bolt on muffler so you just need the mid pipe.
If you can get mandrel bent tubing go for 2" pipe if you can't get it, then go for 2.25" pipe.
If you want it civil, snap a round mufller/resonator in the middle in place of the OE resonator and ou are good to go!

And the header will make some difference as long as you work out the rest of the muffler. Not much gain by mating a header with a stock exhaust.
i've heard that seddan 08 has 2 cats and there are 2 air sensors after each cat, when you do that mod above what r u gonna do with the sensors? it will not give u CE light?
i'm asking cuz i wanna do a mod almost like this
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Old 11-09-2008, 02:19 AM   #6
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i've heard that seddan 08 has 2 cats and there are 2 air sensors after each cat, when you do that mod above what r u gonna do with the sensors? it will not give u CE light?
i'm asking cuz i wanna do a mod almost like this
Sedan = Liftback. The only difference is the axleback section. In the sedan is a little longer.

Both models come with 2 cat converters. First one just after the exhaust manifold and the other one a few inches after.
The car has 2 sensors on the exhaust the first one and the most important is in the header. You can not mess with that one. Then there is a second sensor right after the first cat. The function of that one is monitoring the functionality of the Primary (first) cat. That one can be easily tricked if you plan to go catless. There is no sensors after the second cat. Therefore you can remove that one if you want and your car won't even notice it.
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Old 11-09-2008, 05:56 PM   #7
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Sedan = Liftback. The only difference is the axleback section. In the sedan is a little longer.

Both models come with 2 cat converters. First one just after the exhaust manifold and the other one a few inches after.
The car has 2 sensors on the exhaust the first one and the most important is in the header. You can not mess with that one. Then there is a second sensor right after the first cat. The function of that one is monitoring the functionality of the Primary (first) cat. That one can be easily tricked if you plan to go catless. There is no sensors after the second cat. Therefore you can remove that one if you want and your car won't even notice it.
so when i change the header i just need to leave the sensor where it is and replace the header?
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:39 AM   #8
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so when i change the header i just need to leave the sensor where it is and replace the header?
Yes. You just need to unplug the sensor on the stock exhaust manifold. Take the manifold out and install the header and finally put te sensor back on the header. It should have a bung for the sensor. Pretty simple
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Old 11-11-2008, 09:15 AM   #9
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The DC header mentioned above is actually a 4-1 design. There is only one 4-2-1 header ....

Cheers, that is some useful info there!
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Old 11-11-2008, 04:21 PM   #10
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Do your stock headers look like these from a 1.3 litre Echo?


Or like these from a 1.5 litre Echo?


A guy on Ozecho has swapped the 1.5 litre manifold (the one with the longer primaries) onto his 1.3 litre and is happy with the improvement.

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Old 11-11-2008, 04:59 PM   #11
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Us spec Yaris header is like this one

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Do your stock headers look like these from a 1.3 litre Echo?
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Old 11-11-2008, 05:48 PM   #12
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Did you guys just get the 1.3 litre motor, or do you have those type of headers even on the 1.5 litre motors?
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Old 11-11-2008, 06:49 PM   #13
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The only engine available in the US is the 1NZ-FE (1.5L)

You should be aware that there are some differences on external components between the 1.5L on the first gen Yaris/echo and the second gen yaris.

The intake for example is different. The exhaust manifold (header) is very similar between the 2 but there is a slight difference. So a first gen 1.5 yaris/echo header won't fit into a Second gen Yaris unit.


If you are looking for a header option for a first gen Yaris/echo, then you should look for the first gen scion xB and xA headers. Those will fit onto a first gen Yaris.
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