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[09TRD]

Originally Posted by Chupacabra

The fuelie is a beast....sounds better than a Ferrari and is just loving to be revved around 7500 RPM

Redline was 6,500 RPM. The motor would have blown apart at anything close to "7,500 RPM."

They produced something on the order of 275 NET HP (the way modern engines are rated). The old "gross" ratings were essentially meaningless.

Here's an original road test of a 1962 327 "fuelie" Corvette. The car ran the quarter mile in 15.0 seconds @ 95 MPH. The 60 to 100 MPH segment required nearly 10 full seconds, which is pretty lame by today's standards. I like 60 to 100 MPH comparisons, since they eliminate the "but it had skinny tires" excuse that often used for the older cars.

http://www.caranddriver.com/content/...t+Corvette.pdf

A new, bone stock V6/automatic Camry is a faster car.

This 1965 327 fuelie was a little quicker than the other one (14.4. @ 99 MPH). http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....article_id=957

That's nothing that a new, bone stock, V6/6 speed Accord coupe couldn't handle. http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...ccordCoupe.pdf

[Chupacabra]

Originally Posted by 09TRD

Redline was 6,500 RPM. The motor would have blown apart at anything close to "7,500 RPM."

They produced something on the order of 275 NET HP (the way modern engines are rated). The old "gross" ratings were essentially meaningless.

Here's an original road test of a 1962 327 "fuelie" Corvette. The car ran the quarter mile in 15.0 seconds @ 95 MPH. The 60 to 100 MPH segment required nearly 10 full seconds, which is pretty lame by today's standards. I like 60 to 100 MPH comparisons, since they eliminate the "but it had skinny tires" excuse that often used for the older cars.

http://www.caranddriver.com/content/...t+Corvette.pdf

A new, bone stock V6/automatic Camry is a faster car.

This 1965 327 fuelie was a little quicker than the other one (14.4. @ 99 MPH). http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....article_id=957

That's nothing that a new, bone stock, V6/6 speed Accord coupe couldn't handle. http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...ccordCoupe.pdf

I have driven and been in the LS3 (on the racetrack). It is a performer...more car than I can handle on the track though...I much prefer my e30 M3 which was where I got the 7500 RPM's from.

I sometimes confuse that with the vette which also loves to be revved to the 6500 RPM that you mentioned...and it will stay there. I don't get on the fuelie often as it's a concours car. I am going to pick it up today AAMOF as I recently had the bearings in the steering replaced.

[09TRD]

Originally Posted by Chupacabra

...I much prefer my e30 M3 which was where I got the 7500 RPM's from.

That statement is ridiculous; your original claim was clearly referring to 327 "fuelie" Corvettes, which have nothing whatsoever to do with an E30 M3.

[Chupacabra]

Originally Posted by 09TRD

That statement is ridiculous; your original claim was clearly referring to 327 "fuelie" Corvettes, which have nothing whatsoever to do with an E30 M3.

What?....I stated that I sometimes get the two confused. It is not feasible that I make a typo in regards to missing the RPM points by 1000 points? If you think that you are Mr. Joe f'ing cool....well you are waaaay off. I own the 327 "fuelie" and happen to know just a few things about it. I also happened to pay $150K cash for it. In other words...I own it. Get off your high horse.

[09TRD]

Originally Posted by Chupacabra

What?....I stated that I sometimes get the two confused. It is not feasible that I make a typo in regards to missing the RPM points by 1000 points? If you think that you are Mr. Joe f'ing cool....well you are waaaay off. I own the 327 "fuelie" and happen to know just a few things about it. I also happened to pay $150K cash for it. In other words...I own it. Get off your high horse.

I don't think I'm Joe anything.

Rather, I'm simply stating that no 283 or 327 fuelie in anything resembling stock form can rev to 7,500 RPM or produce anything close to its advertised (Gross) output in its "as installed" condition. The "375 HP" 327 fuelies, for example, produced roughly 275 SAE NET HP (the way modern engines are rated). As such, they were mid 14 second/100 MPH cars...That's fast by early-to-mid 1960's standards, though nothing a brand new, bone stock V6 Camry family sedan couldn't match.

Nearly half a century has passed since the first 327 Fuelies hit the streets. Huge technological advancements have taken place during that period.


Anyway...I hope you enjoy yours. How about posting some photos of it so we can all see it?

[Chupacabra]

Originally Posted by 09TRD

I don't think I'm Joe anything.

Rather, I'm simply stating that no 283 or 327 fuelie in anything resembling stock form can rev to 7,500 RPM.

I'm also stating that the old fuelie 'Vettes aren't fast cars by modern standards; a new, bone stock V6 Camry would give any bone stock "fuelie" 'Vette a real good run.

Nearly half a century has passed since the first 327 Fuelies hit the streets. Huge technological advancements have taken place during that period.

ah the old "Joe pro"...gotta love em'. I also assume that you would rather have a V6 camry as opposed to a split window 'fueli' as well? You don't have to tell me about fast cars my friend...I have family, friends and I myself, have raced cars. Get a grip....go quote some more Road & Track.

And any day of the week when you'd like....I'll invite you to join me at LRP and race my e30 M3 against your vette. That'd be a hoot to see you get your ass wiped in a car that's 20 years older with 20 years of better technology.

[09TRD]

Originally Posted by Chupacabra

ah the old "Joe pro"...gotta love em'. I also assume that you would rather have a V6 camry as opposed to a split window 'fueli' as well? You don't have to tell me about fast cars my friend...I have family, friends and I myself, have raced cars. Get a grip....go quote some more Road & Track.

And any day of the week when you'd like....I'll invite you to join me at LRP and race my e30 M3 against your vette. That'd be a hoot to see you get your ass wiped in a car that's 20 years older with 20 years of better technology.

The E30 M3 (192 HP, 4 cylinder in a 2,900 pound car) is a slow car my modern standards...They also had handling issues due to their semi-trailing arm rear suspensions.

They required roughly 19 seconds to run from 0 - 100 MPH, while a new LS3 Corvette will do it in roughly 9 seconds flat. The 'Vette also as much larger brakes, superior suspension geometry and a lot more rubber. Top end is 190 MPH.

A new LS3 'Vette will run with a new M3; comparing a 20+ year old, 4 cylinder E30 M3 to either of them is ludicrous.