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Thirty-Nine · 02-04-2009, 06:15 PM

One of the original reasons for stretching tires came from Europe where laws stated that a certain amount of the tire had to be under the fender. Car enthusiasts who wanted to run a wider wheel, but still meet the governments compliance, started to put smaller width tires on wider wheels, so that the majority of the tread was still under the fender. At least that's the story as I understand it.

A primer on stretching tires:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2234638

Tamago · 02-04-2009, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nagoya_TRD.

EDIT: I have a friend who has 225s stretched on 17 x 9 + 20 BBS RSs on an R32 GT-R Daily driven in southern california with no problems. It looks great.

I will see if i can get him to post on here to explain more.

so basically, from a dig race, i have the advantage because i have more rubber on the road

marcus · 02-04-2009, 06:38 PM

on a stretch tires what happen when you get a flat tire...wouldnt that damage the rims right away.??

Nagoya_TRD. · 02-04-2009, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

so basically, from a dig race, i have the advantage because i have more rubber on the road

I think the actual compound of the tire, driver, engine power and 2wd vs 4wd factor might all make a difference but yeah you might have the advantage.

Tamago · 02-04-2009, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nagoya_TRD.

I think the actual compound of the tire, driver, engine power and 2wd vs 4wd factor might all make a difference but yeah you might have the advantage.

245 A032R yokohama R comps?

Nagoya_TRD. · 02-04-2009, 08:27 PM

You might be able to take it off the line. His car has only street tires on those wheels. He has a different set for "racing/track". But it does have 4wd and 310~ horsepower (it's pretty stock)

It was just a hypothetical scenario as it's not my car and such (bench racing is somewhat pointless). But for a street car, it does not really matter IMHO (i think looks are more important).

Tamago · 02-04-2009, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nagoya_TRD.

But for a street car, it does not really matter IMHO (i think looks are more important).

it is nice though, to take an off ramp and not slide off into the bushes while being passed by a stock toyota yaris though i'd imagine ;)

*DISCLAIMER!! I DO NOT OWN A STOCK TOYOTA YARIS, OR FOR THAT OTHER PERSON, A HONDA FIT*

R32 Love BTW

SailDesign · 02-04-2009, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

A primer on stretching tires:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2234638

I love the line from that link:
"- its all about looks, you wont see anyone with low offset deep dish wheels flopping around the autox course.
"
It sums it all up - looks over practicality. Not my cup of tea, but it is nice to see it written down unashamedly.

TLyttle · 02-04-2009, 09:33 PM

There is a bell curve on any mods like this, ie, at some point the idea works well; wide tires on narrow rims don't work well, and vice versa. A moderate stretch has some advantage, but overdone becomes a liability.

Speaking of which, if you do roll a tire off because of too much stretch (I HAVE seen it happen), who do you talk to? The cops, the insurance guys, and any victims may not want to hear your reasons...

RacerFreakXXX · 02-04-2009, 10:56 PM

lol... see I didn't think any of you guys really did. Yes the only people I know doing it are people who own VW or Nissans or drifters. I don't know if I'm gonna go crazy with the stretch but i'm deff gonna go stretch.

SailDesign · 02-05-2009, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacerFreakXXX

lol... see I didn't think any of you guys really did. Yes the only people I know doing it are people who own VW or Nissans or drifters. I don't know if I'm gonna go crazy with the stretch but i'm deff gonna go stretch.

We'll need pics, y'know.

Saggio · 03-05-2009, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacerFreakXXX

lol... see I didn't think any of you guys really did. Yes the only people I know doing it are people who own VW or Nissans or drifters. I don't know if I'm gonna go crazy with the stretch but i'm deff gonna go stretch.

Lets us know and see what you do. When are you doing it?

360cubes · 03-10-2009, 03:18 PM

I'd rather run super low profile tires, add some offset and trim some plastic if I wanted width THAT badly. This thread brings back last years memory of the GM Pontiac Bonneville GXP which had lower profile AND wider tires on the front than on the back since it was FWD. Crazy ppl.

02-04-2009, 06:15 PM	#19
Thirty-Nine Small cars are a big deal View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 3,144	One of the original reasons for stretching tires came from Europe where laws stated that a certain amount of the tire had to be under the fender. Car enthusiasts who wanted to run a wider wheel, but still meet the governments compliance, started to put smaller width tires on wider wheels, so that the majority of the tread was still under the fender. At least that's the story as I understand it. A primer on stretching tires: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2234638 __________________ Subcompact Culture: The Small car blog

02-04-2009, 10:56 PM	#28
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	lol... see I didn't think any of you guys really did. Yes the only people I know doing it are people who own VW or Nissans or drifters. I don't know if I'm gonna go crazy with the stretch but i'm deff gonna go stretch. __________________ 1990 Mazda Miata... I miss my Yaris

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Nagoya_TRD. Drives: None. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 131	You might be able to take it off the line. His car has only street tires on those wheels. He has a different set for "racing/track". But it does have 4wd and 310~ horsepower (it's pretty stock) It was just a hypothetical scenario as it's not my car and such (bench racing is somewhat pointless). But for a street car, it does not really matter IMHO (i think looks are more important).

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TLyttle Drives: 07 Yaris sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Keremeos BC Posts: 986	There is a bell curve on any mods like this, ie, at some point the idea works well; wide tires on narrow rims don't work well, and vice versa. A moderate stretch has some advantage, but overdone becomes a liability. Speaking of which, if you do roll a tire off because of too much stretch (I HAVE seen it happen), who do you talk to? The cops, the insurance guys, and any victims may not want to hear your reasons...

03-10-2009, 03:18 PM	#31
360cubes Drives: 2000 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 82	I'd rather run super low profile tires, add some offset and trim some plastic if I wanted width THAT badly. This thread brings back last years memory of the GM Pontiac Bonneville GXP which had lower profile AND wider tires on the front than on the back since it was FWD. Crazy ppl.