2011 Toyota Yaris Hybrid

[ka0sx]

I dont care hybrid systems are non cost efficient and do not in fact help the environment.

[roxy1]

Originally Posted by ka0sx

I dont care hybrid systems are non cost efficient and do not in fact help the environment.

absolutely correct. you know when you ask people : "what weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of lead?", you will get some people who will respond, "the lead." well, i swear if you asked, what would you rather drive to get good mileage and save the environment, a 50 mpg hybrid or a 50 mpg gas engine car?" you would get plenty of "give me the hybrid" answers.

the fact is, that hybrid will most definitely have a bigger (negative) impact on the environment due to production/disposal issues. i dont get all the hybrid hype. i dont know if they will ever really justify their extra costs. it would take 100,000 miles of driving to save only $1560 by getting 50 mpg instead of 36 mpg. add $1560 to the current yaris price, and all that does is break even, but you know a yaris hybrid will be considereably more than that.

id rather have them concentrate their efforts on making gas engine cars lighter and more efficient and bringing us some truly high mileage deisel vehicles.

imo, hybrids are just a band-aid to the true future of vehicles. (fuel cels, electric, etc...).

[ka0sx]

Originally Posted by roxy1

id rather have them concentrate their efforts on making gas engine cars lighter and more efficient and bringing us some truly high mileage deisel vehicles.

If the government released back the patents of the turbine drive that it bought from Chrysler in the 70's hybrids would actually be a good thing. The Chrysler turbine drive put down 400 hp in the high end and still got 28mpg, but had issues with slow take off as it lacked torque in the low end. However this system with the advances in turbine technology will push 39-46mpg on a 200hp turbine, with a hybrid transmission synergy system you eliminate the no torque at low end problem as electric motors have max. torque at the low end the added benefit of it being a hybrid system is it would be pushing 60mpg depending on which fuel you decide to pump and quite more on a light car such as something weighing 2400lbs and not 4000lbs like what the engine was originally in. These turbine systems had the benefits of being efficient, low polluting, did not need much oil, maintenance free, and could burn any combustible liquid as fuel (diesel, gasoline, whiskey...)

[roxy1]

the Polo is coming here

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090116....ding-to-the-us

the quesdtion is: which version will we get. i love the looks of the new polo and will be all over it if the mileage , price, and warranty are acceptable. that's a big if.

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by roxy1

the Polo is coming here

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090116....ding-to-the-us

the quesdtion is: which version will we get. i love the looks of the new polo and will be all over it if the mileage , price, and warranty are acceptable. that's a big if.

That's it. I'm not excited about the new Polo until I see pulling of the same numbers as the one current in Europe. VW has confirmed that the US version of the Polo will be in sedan and 5 door form, longer wheelbase and higher roofline. That the Polo in Europe is too small for Americans. hopefully they don't think Canadians are too fat for the real Polo either, even though we are just as fat as the US.

[Pars]

Originally Posted by voodoo22

That's it. I'm not excited about the new Polo until I see pulling of the same numbers as the one current in Europe. VW has confirmed that the US version of the Polo will be in sedan and 5 door form, longer wheelbase and higher roofline. That the Polo in Europe is too small for Americans. hopefully they don't think Canadians are too fat for the real Polo either, even though we are just as fat as the US.

If the Polo is standard with the diesel engine, it should be able to pull a fatter version of itself and still return the good consumption.

If the Polo can do 45mpg, it'll probably match CRZ's consumption, but the real test would be at the lights and the quickest around the turns. In which case, it'll need the euro version to even stand a chance.