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Old 04-17-2009, 03:03 AM   #1
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The engine won't care. It's made to run, that's what it does. As long as it has good oil in it and the cooling system is working properly, it will won't know the difference between this trip and a trip across town.

YOU, on the other hand... don't be stupid. Even your 16-hour stunt was on the dumb side. 10-12 hours is the most anyone should consider driving without a rest. Even if you manage to stay awake, you're not going to be anywhere near peak alertness, and that's dangerous.

3,000 miles is a LONG drive. The record for the 2900 mile Cannonball Run (NY-LA) is a touch under 33 hours (at an AVERAGE speed of 87 mph). Trust me, just maintaining an average speed of 65-70 mph on a long road trip without getting into trouble is VERY difficult. So, realistically, even if you don't mind getting a few speeding tickets and manage to keep a 70 mph average, you're looking at a minimum of over 42 hours of drive time. Be smart, make it a 4-day drive... budget some money for hotels rather than ending up spending that money and more on tickets or worse yet paying your insurance deductible.

I could go on, but I hope you get the point. If you have a driving partner, and the two of you switch off RELIGIOUSLY and ensure that one driver is SLEEPING while the other is driving, you can make it without stopping, but even that takes a great deal of dedication and trust between the drivers. (I've done the One Lap of America twice, that's 9 days and about 4,000 miles... plus another 3,000 miles for me driving to and from the event starting point... 7-8,000 miles in about 11 days. The car doesn't care, but that kind of mileage is hard on drivers.)
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:36 AM   #2
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Even your 16-hour stunt was on the dumb side. 10-12 hours is the most anyone should consider driving without a rest. Even if you manage to stay awake, you're not going to be anywhere near peak alertness, and that's dangerous.
I find that I am less and less able to do the long hauls than when I was younger. 10-12 hours was no problem at 30. 8 hours now is about it for me.
Believe me, I WISH I could claim to not be affected by age, but it does eventually get to you. The "kid" inside is still game to try, but the Old Phart outside knows better now.
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:52 PM   #3
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The engine won't care. It's made to run, that's what it does. As long as it has good oil in it and the cooling system is working properly, it will won't know the difference between this trip and a trip across town.

YOU, on the other hand... don't be stupid. Even your 16-hour stunt was on the dumb side. 10-12 hours is the most anyone should consider driving without a rest. Even if you manage to stay awake, you're not going to be anywhere near peak alertness, and that's dangerous.

3,000 miles is a LONG drive. The record for the 2900 mile Cannonball Run (NY-LA) is a touch under 33 hours (at an AVERAGE speed of 87 mph). Trust me, just maintaining an average speed of 65-70 mph on a long road trip without getting into trouble is VERY difficult. So, realistically, even if you don't mind getting a few speeding tickets and manage to keep a 70 mph average, you're looking at a minimum of over 42 hours of drive time. Be smart, make it a 4-day drive... budget some money for hotels rather than ending up spending that money and more on tickets or worse yet paying your insurance deductible.

I could go on, but I hope you get the point. If you have a driving partner, and the two of you switch off RELIGIOUSLY and ensure that one driver is SLEEPING while the other is driving, you can make it without stopping, but even that takes a great deal of dedication and trust between the drivers. (I've done the One Lap of America twice, that's 9 days and about 4,000 miles... plus another 3,000 miles for me driving to and from the event starting point... 7-8,000 miles in about 11 days. The car doesn't care, but that kind of mileage is hard on drivers.)
thanks for the advice, i guess i'm trying to prove a point. but honestly if i started falling asleep i would pull over to a rest stop or something.

but honestly when i drove down to orlando i had no problems. maybe because i must have stopped like 10+ times because i was driving a dodge intrepid lol. those gas breaks probably helped
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:21 PM   #4
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thanks for the advice, i guess i'm trying to prove a point. but honestly if i started falling asleep i would pull over to a rest stop or something.

but honestly when i drove down to orlando i had no problems. maybe because i must have stopped like 10+ times because i was driving a dodge intrepid lol. those gas breaks probably helped
Some points don't need proving, my friend. Your safety and the safety of others is at risk.

I wish I still had the photos... a guy I used to autocross with went to the SCCA Solo Nationals in Topeka, Kansas a few years ago. Drove from FL to KS straight through (21-24 hour drive), did the event (spent 2-3 days there) and then headed home, trying to do the same straight through solo drive again. He stuffed his car into the back of a semi somewhere between Wichita and Oklahoma City. Fell asleep and fortunately struck a vehicle that was moving at 70 mph rather than something that wasn't moving. He lived to tell the story, his car did not. And, if you're not familiar with your Midwest geography, Topeka to OKC is well under 6 hours. Exhaustion has a way of catching up with you when you least expect it.
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