Whats wrong with Rota's? - Page 7 - Toyota Yaris Forums

mastaofdisasta · 05-05-2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

here's what i think about rota.

if you're buying wheels, and you CHOOSE a rota, you have no imagination. there are plenty of other quality non-jdm-fanboi-elite-asshole wheels out there that aren't direct knockoffs...

just stay away from XXR/herpemax wheels lol

I chose Rota because i like the wheels im gettin (slipstreams) im sure its a knockoff style but they are cheap and readily available. And ya i know everyone has this wheel, but i dont care because i like it, so what?? Its a proven wheel company and i hear more good than bad as far as performance goes.

Tamago · 05-05-2009, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastaofdisasta

I chose Rota because i like the wheels im gettin (slipstreams) im sure its a knockoff style but they are cheap and readily available. And ya i know everyone has this wheel, but i dont care because i like it, so what?? Its a proven wheel company and i hear more good than bad as far as performance goes.

how exactly does a wheel perform?

slips are heavy as hell

Nagoya_TRD. · 05-05-2009, 08:15 PM

The market that the big names shoot for is a higher level/target than what rota can make. So the people buying knockoffs are not really hurting anyone.

Wheels are wheels, they are worth the same regardless of what car they are on. Cars depreciate, wheels depreciate. People who are smart, will sell their wheels separately.

Tamago · 05-05-2009, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nagoya_TRD.

The market that the big names shoot for is a higher level/target than what rota can make. So the people buying knockoffs are not really hurting anyone.

Wheels are wheels, they are worth the same regardless of what car they are on. Cars depreciate, wheels depreciate. People who are smart, will sell their wheels separately.

agreed

but would you pay $1000 more for a used yaris simply because it had curbed Volks on it instead of curbed Rotas for $1000 cheaper total cost?

Nagoya_TRD. · 05-05-2009, 08:19 PM

I would do neither. If the car has curbed wheels, i would want stockers on it. I would not pay more for curbed volks over rotas.

My friend bought a set of Quality 3 piece full forged 17 x 9 + 20 BBS RS wheels used for a whopping $600 dollars. (not for a yaris). Shop around, and you can find quality, if that is what you truly seek. He actually bought a set of 6 wheels for $1000 dollars. 17 x 9 (4), and 17 x 8 (2). He sold the 17 x 8s for $400 dollars.

Russelt3hPirate · 05-05-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mastaofdisasta

if they made a fake yaris kit car, with a toyota engine id be on that like white on rice

but it wouldn't come with a toyota engine and it wouldn't be a kit car. It would just "look" exactly like a yaris and it'd fall apart more (on avg), and be heavier

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastaofdisasta

not buying rotas because they are replicas is like not buying a yaris because it doesnt use the original design of the original combustion engine, because its just a copy

AHAHA whoa whoa when did I ever say we were talking about the functions of a circle? we're talking about the visual design.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

i'm not pro-rota. but i am anti-waste. and $2000 wheels on a $9000 car is a waste, unless you can PROVE that said wheels increase the resale value of the car by $2000.

nope?

when does any mod add the same value? never. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastaofdisasta

I chose Rota because i like the wheels im gettin (slipstreams) im sure its a knockoff style but they are cheap and readily available. And ya i know everyone has this wheel, but i dont care because i like it, so what?? Its a proven wheel company and i hear more good than bad as far as performance goes.

just for fun....(yes we know the dude hit something hard, you can't lie the wheel broke)

A few "demotivationals" I made ages ago from a broken rota.

Russelt3hPirate · 05-05-2009, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nagoya_TRD.

The market that the big names shoot for is a higher level/target than what rota can make. So the people buying knockoffs are not really hurting anyone.

Wheels are wheels, they are worth the same regardless of what car they are on. Cars depreciate, wheels depreciate. People who are smart, will sell their wheels separately.

exactly, which is why this is really just a thread to get people a stirrin.

FunctionSpec · 05-05-2009, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

you fail to realize that there are people who will NEVER spend ridiculous amounts of $$ on wheels. does it cost Volk 3X the money to design a wheel? hell no, they pay some entry level 3D cad guy minimum wage to design their shit, so why do we go on and on about it being the original design. it's a round cylinder with a center hub and spokes for god's sake.

i'm not pro-rota. but i am anti-waste. and $2000 wheels on a $9000 car is a waste, unless you can PROVE that said wheels increase the resale value of the car by $2000.

nope?

then give up. without knockoff wheels, there would be no market for "genuine" wheels. it gives you wheeleeetist assholes something to snub your nose at the rest of us for, and the fanbois something to save for 6months to be able to finally put on their econobox, followed immediately by them getting curbed to shit by a valet or your mom/sister/girlfriend (no sexist comment, just stating the way it's gone down in my past)

what's worth more, a curbed to hell volk or a curbed to hell rota?

What you failed to realize that in my post I did not mention anything about JDM wheels like VOLK or any other JDM company.
There are other companies out there that design and develop their own wheels for a reasonable prices
Support those companies that bring originality into this industry

mastaofdisasta · 05-05-2009, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russelt3hPirate

exactly, which is why this is really just a thread to get people a stirrin.

meh i just started it cuz i was curious

mastaofdisasta · 05-05-2009, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

how exactly does a wheel perform?

slips are heavy as hell

And i dont think that 12lbs falls under the category "heavy as hell". Considering the weight of the wheels on the car now...

When i start racing formula 1, ill be sure not to get rotas, but for autox i think they will be fine for now.

Tamago · 05-06-2009, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunctionSpec

What you failed to realize that in my post I did not mention anything about JDM wheels like VOLK or any other JDM company.
There are other companies out there that design and develop their own wheels for a reasonable prices
Support those companies that bring originality into this industry

followed with a retarded statement involving terrorism... lol

Tamago · 05-06-2009, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastaofdisasta

And i dont think that 12lbs falls under the category "heavy as hell". Considering the weight of the wheels on the car now...

When i start racing formula 1, ill be sure not to get rotas, but for autox i think they will be fine for now.

Description:
# Size: 15x7
# Pattern: 4x100
# Offset: +35mm
# Hub Bore: 57.1mm
# Weight: 15 lbs

hey, the internet could be wrong lol

mastaofdisasta · 05-06-2009, 08:12 AM

# Size: 15x.6.5
# Pattern: 4x100
# Offset: +40mm
# Hub Bore: mm
# Weight: 13 lb

yes i know those are 15x6.5
(which is what im gettin)

Rota Slipstream Cast 15x6.5 11.9

another site...

Weight:
15" 12lbs
16" 13.5lbs

another site

Rota Slipstream Cast 15x6.5 11.9 lbs
Rota Slipstream Cast 15x7 12.9
Rota Slipstream Cast 16x7 14.5 lbs

ill weigh em for ya when i get em

Oh and if your wheels in your garage for your xA are up to date...

Pro Race 1, White
15x7, 23mm offset, weight 13.5lbs

Slipstream<pro race

But the internet could be wrong.

scape · 05-06-2009, 08:22 AM

Does anyone know the actual weight of the stock 15x5.5 steel rim without the tire? not all steel wheels are the same, nor are tires: the one on the corolla, prius, mr2, and yaris all have relatively the same size but different weights on many online charts, some of these charts don't have the correct size so I begin to doubt the weight.
but knowing if the weight is 16lbs or 13lbs is a big deal to me, cause that'd rule out many options-- I am only interested in going lighter with a fair bit of width more...

Tamago · 05-06-2009, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastaofdisasta

Oh and if your wheels in your garage for your xA are up to date...

Pro Race 1, White
15x7, 23mm offset, weight 13.5lbs

Slipstream<pro race

But the internet could be wrong.

you're comparing apples to oranges buddy. 15X7 +23 is in no way the same as a 15X6.5 +40.. you do realize that lower offset wheels (and wider for that matter) always weigh more, right?

does the BTCC use Rota slipstreams on their touring cars? lol

Tamago · 05-06-2009, 08:33 AM

http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda...t/61-0300.html

IMO a great looking wheel

mastaofdisasta · 05-06-2009, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

you're comparing apples to oranges buddy. 15X7 +23 is in no way the same as a 15X6.5 +40.. you do realize that lower offset wheels (and wider for that matter) always weigh more, right?

does the BTCC use Rota slipstreams on their touring cars? lol

ahhhh that is true

but i never said Rotas were touring car championship material

But as far as my opinion goes, i just the looks of the slipstream better, i think on hatchbacks like the yaris, a wheel with a little wider spokes look better. Thats just me, and ive heard alot more good than bad about rotas.

eTiMaGo · 05-06-2009, 09:17 AM

Somewhat on topic, Tamago, Russell, do you have any experience with Lenso wheels? While some of their designs are "inspired" by other brands, they now have quite a lot of bespoke (hehehe) designs. And they are a local company, I believe, so there's a certain price advantage.

I am looking particularly at these:

Lenso "Project D" 01

15x7, ET38, 4x100 single drilled, but no idea about the weight...

05-06-2009, 08:12 AM	#121
mastaofdisasta Drives: yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: amerika Posts: 258	# Size: 15x.6.5 # Pattern: 4x100 # Offset: +40mm # Hub Bore: mm # Weight: 13 lb yes i know those are 15x6.5 (which is what im gettin) Rota Slipstream Cast 15x6.5 11.9 another site... Weight: 15" 12lbs 16" 13.5lbs another site Rota Slipstream Cast 15x6.5 11.9 lbs Rota Slipstream Cast 15x7 12.9 Rota Slipstream Cast 16x7 14.5 lbs ill weigh em for ya when i get em Oh and if your wheels in your garage for your xA are up to date... Pro Race 1, White 15x7, 23mm offset, weight 13.5lbs Slipstream<pro race But the internet could be wrong. __________________ ballin on a budget.

05-06-2009, 08:33 AM	#124
Tamago View User's Garage Drives: UZJ100 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Off Grid Posts: 4,927	http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda...t/61-0300.html IMO a great looking wheel __________________ Been a long time messing with cars..

05-06-2009, 09:17 AM	#126
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	Somewhat on topic, Tamago, Russell, do you have any experience with Lenso wheels? While some of their designs are "inspired" by other brands, they now have quite a lot of bespoke (hehehe) designs. And they are a local company, I believe, so there's a certain price advantage. I am looking particularly at these: Lenso "Project D" 01 15x7, ET38, 4x100 single drilled, but no idea about the weight... __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

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05-05-2009, 08:15 PM	#111
Nagoya_TRD. Drives: None. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 131	The market that the big names shoot for is a higher level/target than what rota can make. So the people buying knockoffs are not really hurting anyone. Wheels are wheels, they are worth the same regardless of what car they are on. Cars depreciate, wheels depreciate. People who are smart, will sell their wheels separately.

05-05-2009, 08:19 PM	#113
Nagoya_TRD. Drives: None. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 131	I would do neither. If the car has curbed wheels, i would want stockers on it. I would not pay more for curbed volks over rotas. My friend bought a set of Quality 3 piece full forged 17 x 9 + 20 BBS RS wheels used for a whopping $600 dollars. (not for a yaris). Shop around, and you can find quality, if that is what you truly seek. He actually bought a set of 6 wheels for $1000 dollars. 17 x 9 (4), and 17 x 8 (2). He sold the 17 x 8s for $400 dollars.

05-06-2009, 08:22 AM	#122
scape View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Beaufort, South Carolina Posts: 388	Does anyone know the actual weight of the stock 15x5.5 steel rim without the tire? not all steel wheels are the same, nor are tires: the one on the corolla, prius, mr2, and yaris all have relatively the same size but different weights on many online charts, some of these charts don't have the correct size so I begin to doubt the weight. but knowing if the weight is 16lbs or 13lbs is a big deal to me, cause that'd rule out many options-- I am only interested in going lighter with a fair bit of width more...