Goodyear Fuel Max Tires - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

The little red pill · 05-08-2009, 11:56 PM

I've already decided on the next tires "or shoes" for Bubbles. I did a search on Tire Rack with decending UTQG "treadwear" and with the best price. The results were the same as BAIL OUT indicated. Yokohama Avid TRZ.
Bubbles is very happy about getting his new shoes, but I told him that he needs to wear out his Goodyear LS's first!

aclark246 · 05-09-2009, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The little red pill

Bubbles is very happy about getting his new shoes, but I told him that he needs to wear out his Goodyear LS's first!

That won't take long...

Hopefully I'll be picking up the Avid TRZ tires next weekend so I can give you a heads up on any immediate FE change from the LS's. (the temp and my commute shouldn't change that much over a week so any change will probably be due to tires, for good or for ill.)

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Originally Posted by Adriaan

i got Vredestein hi-trac which is amazing in the wet and not bad in the dry. It does have low-rolling resistance it helps with the fuel mileage. Check out this web site on test for a set of popular tires in europe. I helped me choose mine! but also depends on what type of tire you want for the dry or wet.

Have you used them in the snow or do you have dedicated snow tires? just curious.

06vitzRS · 05-09-2009, 02:12 AM

In the summer i have high performance tires and 17 inch rims. FE is in the crapper. In the winter i run stock size 15s with Nokian Haka R's. Since purchasing the car i have gotten the best mileage with the winters on.
http://www.nokiantires.com/tyre?id=1...akkapeliitta+R

1stToyota · 05-09-2009, 10:04 AM

This is the tire I'll probably go with. Really smooth and quiet ride. Cooper CS4 Touring T (780 AA)

2nd choice: TireRack's #1 pick (Pirelli P4 760 AB)
3rd choice: TireRack's #2 pick (Yokohama Avid TRZ 700 AB)

enkid · 05-10-2009, 04:24 PM

Yesterday I bought a set of the GY Fuelmax tires. These tires say max side wall pressure 51psi. I'll report any noticeable difference over the OEM tires which were GY Eagles. Those ran for 76300 miles exactly and were just getting to the tread wear markers. My average MPG over the life of the tires was 49.8. I kept the tires between 48 and 50 psi. The Eagles were atrocious in the snow but lasted a lot longer than any tires I've ever had on any car.

aclark246 · 05-11-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by enkid

Yesterday I bought a set of the GY Fuelmax tires. These tires say max side wall pressure 51psi. I'll report any noticeable difference over the OEM tires which were GY Eagles. Those ran for 76300 miles exactly and were just getting to the tread wear markers. My average MPG over the life of the tires was 49.8. I kept the tires between 48 and 50 psi. The Eagles were atrocious in the snow but lasted a lot longer than any tires I've ever had on any car.

WOW! You managed 76k on the OEM tires in Rhode Island? I'm a 35k and they are already worn down, (granted I purchased it used at 21K, but still...) I live and commute in RI and MA too so it can't be the region...I'm really curious as to why mine wore down so quickly.

Looking forward to your comments on the Fuelmax!

Sodium Duck · 05-11-2009, 12:32 AM

Ditto, that'll be interesting to see. Do you have a fuel log you can post?

enkid · 05-13-2009, 12:01 AM

My first impression of the Fuelmax tires is disappointing. I'm comparing them to GY Eagles at the end of their life, pumped up to about 50PSI. The old tires were probably at their best rolling resistance because of their age. The new ones, probably the worst rolling resistance in their life because they're new. It has been cool and windy which makes it hard to judge, but it seems that my glides decay a little more quickly now. The rolling resistance is noticably better when turning. At low speeds the ride feels more precise. At high speeds, probably because of the electric steering and less rolling resistance, I'm feeling more of a tendency to oversteer (or understeer less, I don't know) The squirlyness this car gets at highway speeds when hit with side winds and turbulence seems to be a little worse....but it's hard to tell - it has been windier than usual too.

The tires feel way different and I'm just getting to know them. They may have qualities I may need to learn to take advantage of.

Sodium Duck · 05-13-2009, 11:29 AM

Cool, keep us updated.

enkid · 05-15-2009, 09:10 PM

Rolling resistance seems to have improved a little after about 400 miles.
Impossible to drive a straight line at highway speeds...there is a bias away from straight, pulling left and right. Constantly correcting requires a lot of concentration. It borders on being dangerous. If an alignment doesn't fix it, I will want to return the tires.

aclark246 · 05-15-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by enkid

Rolling resistance seems to have improved a little after about 400 miles.
Impossible to drive a straight line at highway speeds...there is a bias away from straight, pulling left and right. Constantly correcting requires a lot of concentration. It borders on being dangerous. If an alignment doesn't fix it, I will want to return the tires.

EHHHHH thats not good, I'll be waiting for your alignment too haha

That should probably fix the problem though, at least I hope it does...

Thanks again for keeping us updated and letting us all learn from your experiences! (good or bad)

1stToyota · 05-16-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by enkid

Rolling resistance seems to have improved a little after about 400 miles.
Impossible to drive a straight line at highway speeds...there is a bias away from straight, pulling left and right. Constantly correcting requires a lot of concentration. It borders on being dangerous. If an alignment doesn't fix it, I will want to return the tires.

Before you waste $$$ on an alignment you wouldn't want to consider this, but try dropping tire pressure to 32psi...it's just a theory that I have about the right size foot print contacting the pavement as being a good thing for handling and grip, more so than the stiffer sidewall.

enkid · 05-16-2009, 08:22 PM

I was out getting an alignment when you posted that....during this past week I tried 32, 42 and 51 PSI. The sidewall says max 51 PSI. Toyota says 32. It was noticeably worse at 51.

The tow-in was way out of spec - was actually a tow out, so the car was always trying to enter a turn. The printout from their alignment jig shows before/after numbers. I haven't taken it out on the interstate yet.

Yaris Hilton · 05-16-2009, 10:58 PM

I know mine is a bit more wander-prone and gust responsive (as well as more responsive generally) with the sidewall maximum pressure in the stock Eagle LS tires.

1stToyota · 05-18-2009, 09:19 AM

I don't know if it's because I grew up riding motorcycles and know what side winds can do to you, or if it's because I'm a freak that actually likes running 32psi but I really don't notice strong winds giving me a problem when I'm in the Yaris.

Yaris Hilton · 05-18-2009, 10:39 AM

Oh yeah, I'm a longtime cyclist and motorcyclist, too. A Yaris is stable as a rock compared to a two-wheeler. Even with sidewall max pressure.

hatchbackkid82 · 05-22-2009, 10:27 AM

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enkid · 05-23-2009, 12:19 PM

The tires were fine after alignment. Superior to the OEM Eagle LS in every way. I *think* the main difference as a fuel saver is that they're made to be able to be run safely at higher pressure.The sidewall pressure rating is higher. The rolling resistance seems to be about the same as my old tires were at 32, 45 and 50PSI, except when turning - the new tires are much better. GY's wet dry and snow traction ratings and their "comfort" rating for this tire are much better than those they give for the Eagle LS. I concur that they're smoother and quieter, and the handling, especially in curves, is a lot better.

05-08-2009, 11:56 PM	#19
The little red pill Taking care of Bubbles Drives: 2009 Yaris LB "Bubbles" Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: on my computer chair Posts: 100	I've already decided on the next tires "or shoes" for Bubbles. I did a search on Tire Rack with decending UTQG "treadwear" and with the best price. The results were the same as BAIL OUT indicated. Yokohama Avid TRZ. Bubbles is very happy about getting his new shoes, but I told him that he needs to wear out his Goodyear LS's first! __________________ 2009 Absolutely Red LB. "Bubbles"

05-09-2009, 02:12 AM	#21
06vitzRS View User's Garage Drives: 06 Yaris HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Alberta,Canada Posts: 43	In the summer i have high performance tires and 17 inch rims. FE is in the crapper. In the winter i run stock size 15s with Nokian Haka R's. Since purchasing the car i have gotten the best mileage with the winters on. http://www.nokiantires.com/tyre?id=1...akkapeliitta+R __________________ 4th year apprentice mechanic.

05-09-2009, 10:04 AM	#22
1stToyota Drives: 2013 Chevy Spark 1LT 5-speed Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,185	This is the tire I'll probably go with. Really smooth and quiet ride. Cooper CS4 Touring T (780 AA) 2nd choice: TireRack's #1 pick (Pirelli P4 760 AB) 3rd choice: TireRack's #2 pick (Yokohama Avid TRZ 700 AB) __________________ 1997 Lincoln Town Car - *SOLD* 2008 Scion xD (w/ automatic) - SOLD 2008 Yaris HB - SOLD Last edited by 1stToyota; 05-09-2009 at 10:27 AM.

05-11-2009, 12:32 AM	#25
Sodium Duck ╚══════════RN Drives: 2008 Liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Western Mass. Posts: 999	Ditto, that'll be interesting to see. Do you have a fuel log you can post? __________________ 42.88

05-13-2009, 11:29 AM	#27
Sodium Duck ╚══════════RN Drives: 2008 Liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Western Mass. Posts: 999	Cool, keep us updated. __________________ 42.88

05-10-2009, 04:24 PM	#23
enkid Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: RI, USA Posts: 25	Yesterday I bought a set of the GY Fuelmax tires. These tires say max side wall pressure 51psi. I'll report any noticeable difference over the OEM tires which were GY Eagles. Those ran for 76300 miles exactly and were just getting to the tread wear markers. My average MPG over the life of the tires was 49.8. I kept the tires between 48 and 50 psi. The Eagles were atrocious in the snow but lasted a lot longer than any tires I've ever had on any car.

05-13-2009, 12:01 AM	#26
enkid Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: RI, USA Posts: 25	My first impression of the Fuelmax tires is disappointing. I'm comparing them to GY Eagles at the end of their life, pumped up to about 50PSI. The old tires were probably at their best rolling resistance because of their age. The new ones, probably the worst rolling resistance in their life because they're new. It has been cool and windy which makes it hard to judge, but it seems that my glides decay a little more quickly now. The rolling resistance is noticably better when turning. At low speeds the ride feels more precise. At high speeds, probably because of the electric steering and less rolling resistance, I'm feeling more of a tendency to oversteer (or understeer less, I don't know) The squirlyness this car gets at highway speeds when hit with side winds and turbulence seems to be a little worse....but it's hard to tell - it has been windier than usual too. The tires feel way different and I'm just getting to know them. They may have qualities I may need to learn to take advantage of.

05-15-2009, 09:10 PM	#28
enkid Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: RI, USA Posts: 25	Rolling resistance seems to have improved a little after about 400 miles. Impossible to drive a straight line at highway speeds...there is a bias away from straight, pulling left and right. Constantly correcting requires a lot of concentration. It borders on being dangerous. If an alignment doesn't fix it, I will want to return the tires.

05-16-2009, 08:22 PM	#31
enkid Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: RI, USA Posts: 25	I was out getting an alignment when you posted that....during this past week I tried 32, 42 and 51 PSI. The sidewall says max 51 PSI. Toyota says 32. It was noticeably worse at 51. The tow-in was way out of spec - was actually a tow out, so the car was always trying to enter a turn. The printout from their alignment jig shows before/after numbers. I haven't taken it out on the interstate yet.

05-16-2009, 10:58 PM	#32
Yaris Hilton Half a Bubble Off Plumb Drives: 2009 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bristol, Tennessee, USA Posts: 1,593	I know mine is a bit more wander-prone and gust responsive (as well as more responsive generally) with the sidewall maximum pressure in the stock Eagle LS tires.

05-18-2009, 09:19 AM	#33
1stToyota Drives: 2013 Chevy Spark 1LT 5-speed Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,185	I don't know if it's because I grew up riding motorcycles and know what side winds can do to you, or if it's because I'm a freak that actually likes running 32psi but I really don't notice strong winds giving me a problem when I'm in the Yaris. __________________ 1997 Lincoln Town Car - *SOLD* 2008 Scion xD (w/ automatic) - SOLD 2008 Yaris HB - SOLD

05-18-2009, 10:39 AM	#34
Yaris Hilton Half a Bubble Off Plumb Drives: 2009 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bristol, Tennessee, USA Posts: 1,593	Oh yeah, I'm a longtime cyclist and motorcyclist, too. A Yaris is stable as a rock compared to a two-wheeler. Even with sidewall max pressure.

05-22-2009, 10:27 AM	#35
hatchbackkid82 Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,828	.

05-23-2009, 12:19 PM	#36
enkid Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: RI, USA Posts: 25	The tires were fine after alignment. Superior to the OEM Eagle LS in every way. I think the main difference as a fuel saver is that they're made to be able to be run safely at higher pressure.The sidewall pressure rating is higher. The rolling resistance seems to be about the same as my old tires were at 32, 45 and 50PSI, except when turning - the new tires are much better. GY's wet dry and snow traction ratings and their "comfort" rating for this tire are much better than those they give for the Eagle LS. I concur that they're smoother and quieter, and the handling, especially in curves, is a lot better.

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