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Old 07-17-2009, 03:31 PM   #1
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prolly law issues, and money... it all comes down to money.

Even if it doesn't increase mpg... if it reduces cost per mile at the same time of reducing emissions that is a big improvement. MPG doesn't tell the whole story... Cost Per Mile is what actually matters.

I got better mpg's in washington than oregon last summer due to the difference of E10 Additive in oregon's gas.... but washington's was also more expensive... so when gas was $4ish a gallon it was a wash.... with gas being cheaper... the E10 in oregon isn't as good... but i'm sure by the end of summer it'll be back on top in terms of cost per mile.

the equation to figure out is pretty easy...
Gas price per gallon /mpg
i.e. $3/40mpg = $.075 or 7.5cents per mile

$40 isn't very much... if that's the only cost... if there are recurring costs however... it makes it much harder, and takes much longer to pay for itself.


I think the biggest question is... how easy (read: how expensive) is it to mod the ecu to allow the lean mixture.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:42 PM   #2
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Methanol in fuel produces free hydrogen that's said to confuse O2 sensors. I don't know what effect it has on the sensor.
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prolly law issues, and money... it all comes down to money.

Even if it doesn't increase mpg... if it reduces cost per mile at the same time of reducing emissions that is a big improvement. MPG doesn't tell the whole story... Cost Per Mile is what actually matters.

I got better mpg's in washington than oregon last summer due to the difference of E10 Additive in oregon's gas.... but washington's was also more expensive... so when gas was $4ish a gallon it was a wash.... with gas being cheaper... the E10 in oregon isn't as good... but i'm sure by the end of summer it'll be back on top in terms of cost per mile.

the equation to figure out is pretty easy...
Gas price per gallon /mpg
i.e. $3/40mpg = $.075 or 7.5cents per mile

$40 isn't very much... if that's the only cost... if there are recurring costs however... it makes it much harder, and takes much longer to pay for itself.


I think the biggest question is... how easy (read: how expensive) is it to mod the ecu to allow the lean mixture.



This is legal, and cheap and easy to make. The HHO it produces its not just Hydrogen its "HHO".... So it will be safe to put on the engine, and its high maintenance. However, it can be made from some stainless, and a few other things. If you read around you will see that the links given above are scams. I have been researching this for a long time. You should never buy one, they are not worth the money. Also, you will want to read into how you should set yours up. This is only going to provide a little HHO, unless you create an efficient cell. Citric acid is used, and you would want a closed system that will self circulate the liquid you choose. If you do it right, it will make a decent amount, and not get hot or brown.


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