The open political discussion thread. Read the first post!

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Easy to argue against giving tens of millions of uninsured Americans access to cheaper health care when you're on Medicare, isn't it, old cranky people? Go home. Matlock is on in 10 minutes.

Tea Party whackos don't want reform. At all. Well, I'm sorry, let me rephrase... THEY don't know what they want. They listen to the guy in the corner. With the suit. And the fat wallet. He knows best, and he bought lunch.

Most of these bumbling morons don't have the IQ required to understand the issues at hand. You can tell when they argue. Intelligent people can convey a point without spitting and waving fingers. That is the difference between civil discourse and lunacy. That guy that got in Arlen Specter's face today could barely complete a sentence. He sounded like he had a mouthful of bouncy balls. Elmer Fudd with a brochure of talking points. Point is it isn't about the issues. They just don't like the black guy telling them what is best, even if he is the smartest one in the room. If Obama was old, white and southern, the right would be all over it.

I hope all of these people get cancer and get dropped from their coverage.

My family (like a lot of well-educated, well-to-do democratic families with strong blue-collar roots) are talking about leaving the country that the right is now busy ruining. I hear Canada is lovely. If this shit persists, I won't subject my children to a society where morons like this walk the streets, apparently in droves. Who knew?

With every passing day, I come closer to being ashamed of my country. I wish Dems would tell Republicans to climb a tree and get a good view while we pass this bill along party lines. I couldn't care less what a Republican has to say right now. They gave us Bush AND Palin! Every side has morons (Pelosi) but theirs are BAAAAAAAD.

OK, I feel better now. Back to Yarii!

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

One more thing... a friend brought it to my attention. I'm talking about the far right. Shoot, the far left pisses me off too. The ones in the middle are all OK by me, and for the record I don't consider myself to be a radical liberal.

Wow, I don't know where to start. First off, you are a radical liberal based on the first post.

Second, you clearly haven't read the bill. Neither has anyone else in this country who supports it.

I'm tired of all the liberals so entranced by Obama's repetitive talking points
that give no information and details on the plan while blindly following the "change" because it must be better because he says so. He says the same things everyday. "You can keep your plan"...blah, blah, blah.

Obama is either lying with a bold face or hasn't read the bill himself. In fact, it's both.

READ THE BILL FOLKS!!!

There are so many things in there that you wouldn't believe could be implemented in America.

The bill clearly states that...

- rationing care for the elderly WILL take place (your parents and grandparents). They will receive end of life counseling instead of life saving treatment deemed too expensive by a bureaucrat.

- you WILL lose you private health plan and be forced onto the government plan as soon as you fall off you current plan for any reason (change job, employer changes, ect.).

- Private companies WILL die off as they are forced to compete with a system that doesn't need to profit and can go into infinite debt.

- Specialists will become very difficult to find and see as government will force an increase on primary/general care to save money. General practitioners often miss and misdiagnose that specialists find.

- Doctors and other medical workers will begin to leave or not enter health care because of lesser compensation and increased bureaucracy.

- Your taxes WILL go up to pay for the 10's of millions added to the system (even for the coverage of 10 million illegal aliens). There's not enough evil wealthy people in the world to pay for it all which the bill says it will raise taxes significantly. These include small business owners which will have to lay off millions of workers as a result. No problem.
It's actually poor people who employ everyone anyway.

I could go on and on but I need sleep.

Liberals don't think. All they see is "hope and change" and history being made with a black man in office. Therefore we must support him and his policies blindly. Anyone who criticizes him is racist. It's a good thing Bush wasn't criticized because imagine all the racists!

God help us.